# NTSB NYC74DFJ19: Piper PA-12, N2999M, Skaneateles, NY, December 3, 1973

- Type: NTSB accident investigation
- Classification: Accident · No injuries · Closed
- Date: December 3, 1973
- Place: Skaneateles, NY · SKANEATELES, NY
- Location: 42.9473° N, 76.4285° W: Placed by OpenAirDocs: center of Skaneateles, NY, within about 6 miles (OpenAirDocs)
- Nearby events: https://openairdocs.org/map.md?lat=42.9473&lon=-76.4285&mi=10
- Phase of flight: [Landing](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-phases/550) (OpenAirDocs' grouping)
- Highest injury: No injuries
- Injuries: 2 uninjured
- Status: Completed, report February 25, 1974
- Report: Brief approved by the director
- NTSB case key (mKey): 187504
- NTSB case page: https://web.ntsb.gov/investigations/?ntsbnumber=NYC74DFJ19
- Page: https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/NYC74DFJ19

## NTSB brief

```
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 FILE    DATE          LOCATION          AIRCRAFT DATA       INJURIES       FLIGHT                        PILOT DATA
                                                               F  S M/N     PURPOSE
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3-3898   73/12/3   SKANEATELES,NY      PIPER PA-12         CR-  0  0  2  NONCOMMERCIAL             STUDENT, AGE 50, 181
        TIME - 1230                    N2999M              PX-  0  0  0  PLEASURE/PERSONAL TRANSP  TOTAL HOURS, 155 IN TYPE,
                                       DAMAGE-SUBSTANTIAL  OT-  0  0  0                            NOT INSTRUMENT RATED.
        NAME OF AIRPORT - EMPIRE AERO
        DEPARTURE POINT             INTENDED DESTINATION
          WATERTOWN,NY                SKANEATELES,NY
        TYPE OF ACCIDENT                                         PHASE OF OPERATION
           GROUND-WATER LOOP-SWERVE                                 LANDING: ROLL
           COLLIDED WITH: DIRT BANK                                 LANDING: ROLL
        PROBABLE CAUSE(S)
           PILOT IN COMMAND - FAILED TO MAINTAIN DIRECTIONAL CONTROL
           PILOT IN COMMAND - IMPROPER OPERATION OF BRAKES AND/OR FLIGHT CONTROLS
```

## Aircraft

- Registration: N2999M (not matched to a registry record)
- Reported make and model: PIPER PA-12
- Category: Airplane
- Engines: reciprocating
- Damage: Substantial damage
- Airport: Empire Aero

## FAA reports on this event (1)

The FAA's own accident and incident reports, matched to the aircraft by N-number and date (OpenAirDocs).

- [Accident 19731203041909A](https://openairdocs.org/incident/19731203041909A), Dec 3, 1973: Piper PA12, Skaneateles, NY, Substantial damage

From the NTSB's public API. Aircraft are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported serial number, make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model.

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