# NTSB NYC77FFJ06: Grum Amer AA1-B, N6505L, Centereach, NY, December 5, 1976

- Type: NTSB accident investigation
- Classification: Accident · No injuries · Closed
- Date: December 5, 1976
- Place: Centereach, NY · CENTEREACH, NY
- Location: 40.8681° N, 73.0821° W: Placed by OpenAirDocs: center of Centereach, NY, within about 6 miles (OpenAirDocs)
- Nearby events: https://openairdocs.org/map.md?lat=40.8681&lon=-73.0821&mi=10
- Phase of flight: [Enroute](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-phases/400) (OpenAirDocs' grouping)
- Highest injury: No injuries
- Injuries: 2 uninjured
- Status: Completed, report February 15, 1977
- Report: Brief approved by the director
- NTSB case key (mKey): 152536
- NTSB case page: https://web.ntsb.gov/investigations/?ntsbnumber=NYC77FFJ06
- Page: https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/NYC77FFJ06

## NTSB brief

```
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 FILE    DATE          LOCATION          AIRCRAFT DATA       INJURIES       FLIGHT                        PILOT DATA
                                                               F  S M/N     PURPOSE
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
3-3779   76/12/5   CENTEREACH,NY       GRUM AMER AA1-B     CR-  0  0  2  INSTRUCTIONAL             COMMERCIAL, FL.INSTR.,
        TIME - 1230                    N6505L              PX-  0  0  0  DUAL                      AGE 34, 1046 TOTAL HOURS,
                                       DAMAGE-SUBSTANTIAL  OT-  0  0  0                            303 IN TYPE, INSTRUMENT
                                                                                                   RATED.
        NAME OF AIRPORT - ISLIP MACARTHUR
        DEPARTURE POINT             INTENDED DESTINATION
          ISLIP,NY                    LOCAL
        TYPE OF ACCIDENT                                         PHASE OF OPERATION
           ENGINE FAILURE OR MALFUNCTION                            IN FLIGHT: OTHER
           GEAR COLLAPSED                                           LANDING: ROLL
        PROBABLE CAUSE(S)
           POWERPLANT - MISCELLANEOUS: POWERPLANT FAILURE FOR UNDETERMINED REASONS
           TERRAIN - ROUGH/UNEVEN
        FACTOR(S)
           MISCELLANEOUS ACTS,CONDITIONS - OVERLOAD FAILURE
        EMERGENCY CIRCUMSTANCES - FORCED LANDING OFF AIRPORT ON LAND
        REMARKS- DURING UNUSUAL ATTITUDE TRAINING ENG LOST PWR.
```

## Aircraft

- Registration: [N6505L](https://openairdocs.org/deregistered/N6505L-1997-02-13), registration cancelled 1997-02-13, S/N AA1B0305 (OpenAirDocs)
- Reported make and model: GRUM AMER AA1-B
- Registry model: [Grumman American Avn. AA-1B](https://openairdocs.org/model/grumman-american-avn-aa-1b) (registry code 3960103) (OpenAirDocs)
- Category: Airplane
- Engines: reciprocating
- Damage: Substantial damage
- Airport: Islip Macarthur

## FAA reports on this event (1)

The FAA's own accident and incident reports, matched to the aircraft by N-number and date (OpenAirDocs).

- [Accident 19761205040489A](https://openairdocs.org/incident/19761205040489A), Dec 5, 1976: Grumav AA1B, Centereach, NY, Substantial damage. During unusual attitude training eng lost pwr.

## Other investigations on N6505L (1)

From the NTSB's public API. Aircraft are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported serial number, make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model.

- [NTSB FTW96FA352](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/FTW96FA352), Aug 20, 1996: Grumman American AA-1B (N6505L), Boulder, CO, destroyed, 2 fatal. Probable cause: The pilot's poor judgment in attempting low altitude flight in mountainous terrain without adequate mountain flying training which led to low altitude maneuvering exceeding the climb capability of…

From the NTSB's public API. Aircraft are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported serial number, make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model.

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