# NTSB NYC77FFJ12: Piper PA-23, N15RE, Rochester, NY, February 27, 1977

- Type: NTSB accident investigation
- Classification: Accident · No injuries · Closed
- Date: February 27, 1977
- Place: Rochester, NY · ROCHESTER, NY
- Location: 43.1548° N, 77.6156° W: Placed by OpenAirDocs: center of Rochester, NY, within about 6 miles (OpenAirDocs)
- Nearby events: https://openairdocs.org/map.md?lat=43.1548&lon=-77.6156&mi=10
- Phase of flight: [Approach](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-phases/500) (OpenAirDocs' grouping)
- Highest injury: No injuries
- Injuries: 6 uninjured
- Status: Completed, report April 22, 1977
- Report: Brief approved by the director
- NTSB case key (mKey): 157702
- NTSB case page: https://web.ntsb.gov/investigations/?ntsbnumber=NYC77FFJ12
- Page: https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/NYC77FFJ12

## NTSB brief

```
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 FILE    DATE          LOCATION          AIRCRAFT DATA       INJURIES       FLIGHT                        PILOT DATA
                                                               F  S M/N     PURPOSE
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3-0413  77/2/27    ROCHESTER,NY        PIPER PA-23         CR-  0  0  1  NONCOMMERCIAL             COMMERCIAL, AGE 61, 4000
        TIME - 1430                    N15RE               PX-  0  0  5  PLEASURE/PERSONAL TRANSP  TOTAL HOURS, 20 IN TYPE,
                                       DAMAGE-SUBSTANTIAL  OT-  0  0  0                            INSTRUMENT RATED.
        NAME OF AIRPORT - ROCHESTER MONROE
        DEPARTURE POINT             INTENDED DESTINATION
          ROCHESTER,NY                LOCAL
        TYPE OF ACCIDENT                                         PHASE OF OPERATION
           UNDERSHOOT                                               LANDING: FINAL APPROACH
           COLLIDED WITH: FENCE,FENCEPOSTS                          LANDING: FINAL APPROACH
        PROBABLE CAUSE(S)
           PILOT IN COMMAND - MISJUDGED DISTANCE AND ALTITUDE
        FACTOR(S)
           AIRFRAME - LANDING GEAR: NORMAL RETRACTION/EXTENSION ASSEMBLY
           SYSTEMS - HYDRAULIC SYSTEM: RESERVOIR,LINES,FITTINGS
           MISCELLANEOUS ACTS,CONDITIONS - LOOSE,PART/FITTING
           MISCELLANEOUS ACTS,CONDITIONS - LEAK/LEAKAGE
        EMERGENCY CIRCUMSTANCES - PRECAUTIONARY LANDING ON AIRPORT
                                  SUSPECTED MECHANICAL DISCREPANCY
        REMARKS- UN EXTND GR.SHUT DWN ENGS TOO SOON DRG WHEELS-UP APCH TO GRASS AREA.LINE TO DOOR SYSTM FITTING.
```

## Aircraft

- Registration: [N15RE](https://openairdocs.org/aircraft/N15RE), registered now, S/N 27-4068, built 1968 (OpenAirDocs)
- Reported make and model: PIPER PA-23
- Registry model: [Piper PA-23-250](https://openairdocs.org/model/piper-pa-23-250) (registry code 7102308) (OpenAirDocs)
- Registry engine: [Lycoming TI0-540 series](https://openairdocs.org/engine/lycoming-ti0-540-series) (registry code 41533, turbo-prop) (OpenAirDocs)
- Category: Airplane
- Engines: reciprocating
- Damage: Substantial damage
- Airport: Rochester Monroe

## FAA reports on this event (1)

The FAA's own accident and incident reports, matched to the aircraft by N-number and date (OpenAirDocs).

- [Accident 19770227004369A](https://openairdocs.org/incident/19770227004369A), Feb 27, 1977: Piper PA23250, Rochester, NY, Substantial damage. Un extnd gr. Shut dwn engs too soon drg wheels-up apch to grass area. Line to door systm fitting.

From the NTSB's public API. Aircraft are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported serial number, make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model.

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