# NTSB NYC77FFJ19: Grumman G-164, N652Y, North Rose, NY, May 4, 1977

- Type: NTSB accident investigation
- Classification: Accident · No injuries · Closed
- Date: May 4, 1977
- Place: North Rose, NY · NORTH ROSE, NY
- Location: 43.1872° N, 76.8864° W: Placed by OpenAirDocs: center of North Rose, NY, within about 6 miles (OpenAirDocs)
- Nearby events: https://openairdocs.org/map.md?lat=43.1872&lon=-76.8864&mi=10
- Phase of flight: [Maneuvering](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-phases/450) (OpenAirDocs' grouping)
- Highest injury: No injuries
- Injuries: 1 uninjured
- Status: Completed, report November 11, 1977
- Report: Brief approved by the director
- NTSB case key (mKey): 147254
- NTSB case page: https://web.ntsb.gov/investigations/?ntsbnumber=NYC77FFJ19
- Page: https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/NYC77FFJ19

## NTSB brief

```
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 FILE    DATE          LOCATION          AIRCRAFT DATA       INJURIES       FLIGHT                        PILOT DATA
                                                               F  S M/N     PURPOSE
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3-2519   77/5/4  NR.NORTH ROSE,NY      GRUMMAN G-164       CR-  0  0  1  COMMERCIAL                COMMERCIAL, AGE 21, 1497
        TIME - 1700                    N652Y               PX-  0  0  0  AERIAL APPLICATION        TOTAL HOURS, 85 IN TYPE,
                                       DAMAGE-SUBSTANTIAL  OT-  0  0  0                            NOT INSTRUMENT RATED.
        DEPARTURE POINT             INTENDED DESTINATION
          WILLIAM/SODUS,NY            LOCAL
        TYPE OF ACCIDENT                                         PHASE OF OPERATION
           ENGINE FAILURE OR MALFUNCTION                            IN FLIGHT: CLEANUP SWATH
           COLLIDED WITH: WIRES/POLES                               LANDING: FINAL APPROACH
        PROBABLE CAUSE(S)
           PILOT IN COMMAND - MISMANAGEMENT OF FUEL
           MISCELLANEOUS ACTS,CONDITIONS - FUEL EXHAUSTION
           TERRAIN - HIGH OBSTRUCTIONS
        COMPLETE POWER LOSS - COMPLETE ENGINE FAILURE/FLAMEOUT-1 ENGINE
        EMERGENCY CIRCUMSTANCES - FORCED LANDING OFF AIRPORT ON LAND
         SPECIAL DATA
          TOTAL HOURS IN CROP CONTROL - UNKNOWN/NOT REPORTED       KIND OF OPERATION - SPRAYING CROPS
          KIND OF CROP - FRUIT ORCHARDS                            TYPE OF CHEMICAL USED - LIQUID CHEMICAL-NONTOXIC
          PILOT' S SEAT BELT -FASTENED-PROPERLY                    GLOVES - NOT USED
          GOGGLES - NOT USED                                       CRASH HELMET - AVAILABLE USED
          COCKPIT CRASHPAD - INSTALLED                             CRASH BAR - INSTALLED
          TANK/HOPPER-LOCATION - FORWARD OF PILOT                  TERRAIN-TYPE -LEVEL,FLAT
          ELEVATION-AREA BEING TREATED-FEET -  450                 SWATH RUN-HOW FLOWN - WIND CALM
          PROCEDURE TURNAROUND - ENTRY TO PROCEDURE TURN
        REMARKS- HIT TELFON WIRES.
```

## Aircraft

- Registration: [N652Y](https://openairdocs.org/deregistered/N652Y-1982-05-14), registration cancelled 1982-05-14, S/N 231 (OpenAirDocs)
- Reported make and model: GRUMMAN G-164
- Registry model: [Grumman G-164](https://openairdocs.org/model/grumman-g-164) (registry code 3952702) (OpenAirDocs)
- Category: Airplane
- Engines: reciprocating
- Damage: Substantial damage

## FAA reports on this event (1)

The FAA's own accident and incident reports, matched to the aircraft by N-number and date (OpenAirDocs).

- [Accident 19770504023689A](https://openairdocs.org/incident/19770504023689A), May 4, 1977: Grumav G164, North Rose, NY, Substantial damage. Hit telfon wires.

From the NTSB's public API. Aircraft are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported serial number, make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model.

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