# NTSB NYC79FFA29: Piper PA-25, N9838P, Schuylerville, NY, August 6, 1979

- Type: NTSB accident investigation
- Classification: Accident · No injuries · Closed
- Date: August 6, 1979
- Place: Schuylerville, NY · SCHUYLERVILLE, NY
- Location: 43.1010° N, 73.5812° W: Placed by OpenAirDocs: center of Schuylerville, NY, within about 6 miles (OpenAirDocs)
- Nearby events: https://openairdocs.org/map.md?lat=43.1010&lon=-73.5812&mi=10
- Phase of flight: [Initial climb](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-phases/350) (OpenAirDocs' grouping)
- Highest injury: No injuries
- Injuries: 1 uninjured
- Status: Completed, report October 22, 1979
- Report: Brief approved by the director
- NTSB case key (mKey): 134721
- NTSB case page: https://web.ntsb.gov/investigations/?ntsbnumber=NYC79FFA29
- Page: https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/NYC79FFA29

## NTSB brief

```
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 FILE    DATE          LOCATION          AIRCRAFT DATA       INJURIES       FLIGHT                        PILOT DATA
                                                               F  S M/N     PURPOSE
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3-2163   79/8/6    SCHUYLERVILLE,NY    PIPER PA-25         CR-  0  0  1  COMMERCIAL                COMMERCIAL, AGE 33, 3250
        TIME - 1415                    N9838P              PX-  0  0  0  ASSOC CROP CTL ACTIVITY   TOTAL HOURS, 690 IN TYPE,
                                       DAMAGE-SUBSTANTIAL  OT-  0  0  0                            INSTRUMENT RATED.
        NAME OF AIRPORT - GARNSEY
        DEPARTURE POINT             INTENDED DESTINATION
          SCHUYLERVILLE,NY            LOCAL
        TYPE OF ACCIDENT                                         PHASE OF OPERATION
           STALL                                                    TAKEOFF: INITIAL CLIMB
        PROBABLE CAUSE(S)
           PILOT IN COMMAND - FAILED TO OBTAIN/MAINTAIN FLYING SPEED
           PILOT IN COMMAND - SELECTED WRONG RUNWAY RELATIVE TO EXISTING WIND
        FACTOR(S)
           MISCELLANEOUS ACTS,CONDITIONS - DOWNWIND
           WEATHER - UNFAVORABLE WIND CONDITIONS
        WEATHER BRIEFING - UNKNOWN/NOT REPORTED
        WEATHER FORECAST - UNKNOWN/NOT REPORTED
        SKY CONDITION                                            CEILING AT ACCIDENT SITE
          SCATTERED                                                UNLIMITED
        VISIBILITY AT ACCIDENT SITE                              PRECIPITATION AT ACCIDENT SITE
          5 OR OVER(UNLIMITED)                                     NONE
        OBSTRUCTIONS TO VISION AT ACCIDENT SITE                  TEMPERATURE-F
          HAZE                                                      78
        WIND DIRECTION-DEGREES                                   WIND VELOCITY-KNOTS
          330                                                       14
        TYPE OF WEATHER CONDITIONS                               TYPE OF FLIGHT PLAN
          VFR                                                      NONE
         SPECIAL DATA
          TOTAL HOURS IN CROP CONTROL - 1415                       KIND OF OPERATION - SEEDING CROPS
          KIND OF CROP - PASTURE                                   PILOT' S SEAT BELT -FASTENED-PROPERLY
          GLOVES - NOT USED                                        GOGGLES - NOT USED
          CRASH HELMET - AVAILABLE USED                            COCKPIT CRASHPAD - INSTALLED
          CRASH BAR - INSTALLED                                    TANK/HOPPER-LOCATION - FORWARD OF PILOT
        REMARKS- WIND GUSTS TO 23KTS.
```

## Aircraft

- Registration: [N9838P](https://openairdocs.org/deregistered/N9838P-1993-03-24), registration cancelled 1993-03-24, S/N 257556156 (OpenAirDocs)
- Reported make and model: PIPER PA-25
- Registry model: [Piper PA-25-235](https://openairdocs.org/model/piper-pa-25-235) (registry code 7102504) (OpenAirDocs)
- Category: Airplane
- Engines: reciprocating
- Damage: Substantial damage
- Airport: Garnsey

## FAA reports on this event (1)

The FAA's own accident and incident reports, matched to the aircraft by N-number and date (OpenAirDocs).

- [Accident 19790806022349A](https://openairdocs.org/incident/19790806022349A), Aug 6, 1979: Piper PA25235, Schuylerville, NY, Substantial damage. Ag plane struck tree during upwind turn after takeoff. Acft crashed in river.

## Other investigations on N9838P (1)

From the NTSB's public API. Aircraft are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported serial number, make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model.

- [NTSB NYC77DFA03](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/NYC77DFA03), Oct 12, 1976: Piper PA-25 (N9838P), Ticonderoga, NY, substantial damage

From the NTSB's public API. Aircraft are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported serial number, make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model.

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