# NTSB NYC80FHJ05: Grum Amer AA1B, N1360R, Shirley, NY, December 9, 1979

- Type: NTSB accident investigation
- Classification: Accident · No injuries · Closed
- Date: December 9, 1979
- Place: Shirley, NY · SHIRLEY, NY
- Location: 40.7936° N, 72.8759° W: Placed by OpenAirDocs: center of Shirley, NY, within about 6 miles (OpenAirDocs)
- Nearby events: https://openairdocs.org/map.md?lat=40.7936&lon=-72.8759&mi=10
- Phase of flight: [Landing](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-phases/550) (OpenAirDocs' grouping)
- Highest injury: No injuries
- Injuries: 2 uninjured
- Status: Completed, report February 25, 1980
- Report: Brief approved by the director
- NTSB case key (mKey): 132051
- NTSB case page: https://web.ntsb.gov/investigations/?ntsbnumber=NYC80FHJ05
- Page: https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/NYC80FHJ05

## NTSB brief

```
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 FILE    DATE          LOCATION          AIRCRAFT DATA       INJURIES       FLIGHT                        PILOT DATA
                                                               F  S M/N     PURPOSE
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
3-3583   79/12/9   SHIRLEY,NY          GRUM AMER AA1B      CR-  0  0  2  INSTRUCTIONAL             COMMERCIAL, FL.INSTR.,
        TIME - 1045                    N1360R              PX-  0  0  0  DUAL                      AGE 42, 1134 TOTAL HOURS,
                                       DAMAGE-SUBSTANTIAL  OT-  0  0  0                            610 IN TYPE, INSTRUMENT
                                                                                                   RATED.
        NAME OF AIRPORT - BROOKHAVEN
        DEPARTURE POINT             INTENDED DESTINATION
          SHIRLEY,NY                  LOCAL
        TYPE OF ACCIDENT                                         PHASE OF OPERATION
           DRAGGED WINGTIP,POD,OR FLOAT                             LANDING: LEVEL OFF/TOUCHDOWN
        PROBABLE CAUSE(S)
           DUAL STUDENT - MISJUDGED ALTITUDE AND CLEARANCE
           PILOT IN COMMAND - INADEQUATE SUPERVISION OF FLIGHT
        FACTOR(S)
           MISCELLANEOUS ACTS,CONDITIONS - SIMULATED CONDITIONS
        REMARKS- SIMULATED FORCED LNDG AFTR TKOF RWY 33.LNDD RWY 6.HI RATE OF DESCENT.
```

## Aircraft

- Registration: [N1360R](https://openairdocs.org/aircraft/N1360R), registered now, S/N AA1B0660, built 1976 (OpenAirDocs)
- Reported make and model: GRUM AMER AA1B
- Registry model: [Grumman American Avn. AA-1B](https://openairdocs.org/model/grumman-american-avn-aa-1b) (registry code 3960103) (OpenAirDocs)
- Registry engine: [Lycoming 0-235 series](https://openairdocs.org/engine/lycoming-0-235-series) (registry code 41505, 4 cycle) (OpenAirDocs)
- Category: Airplane
- Engines: reciprocating
- Damage: Substantial damage
- Airport: Brookhaven

## FAA reports on this event (1)

The FAA's own accident and incident reports, matched to the aircraft by N-number and date (OpenAirDocs).

- [Accident 19791209034519A](https://openairdocs.org/incident/19791209034519A), Dec 9, 1979: Gulstm AA1B, Shirley, NY, Substantial damage. CFI gave student simulated forced landing after takeoff. Allowed aircraft wing to hit runway on landing attempt.

From the NTSB's public API. Aircraft are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported serial number, make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model.

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