# NTSB NYC81FGM07: Piper PA-38, N2414F, Grove City, PA, November 21, 1980

- Type: NTSB accident investigation
- Classification: Accident · No injuries · Closed
- Date: November 21, 1980
- Place: Grove City, PA · GROVE CITY, PA
- Location: 41.1571° N, 80.0886° W: Placed by OpenAirDocs: center of Grove City, PA, within about 6 miles (OpenAirDocs)
- Nearby events: https://openairdocs.org/map.md?lat=41.1571&lon=-80.0886&mi=10
- Phase of flight: [Landing](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-phases/550) (OpenAirDocs' grouping)
- Highest injury: No injuries
- Injuries: 2 uninjured
- Status: Completed, report January 29, 1981
- Report: Brief approved by the director
- NTSB case key (mKey): 127989
- NTSB case page: https://web.ntsb.gov/investigations/?ntsbnumber=NYC81FGM07
- Page: https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/NYC81FGM07

## NTSB brief

```
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 FILE    DATE          LOCATION          AIRCRAFT DATA       INJURIES       FLIGHT                        PILOT DATA
                                                               F  S M/N     PURPOSE
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
3-3307  80/11/21   GROVE CITY,PA       PIPER PA-38         CR-  0  0  2  INSTRUCTIONAL             COMMERCIAL, FL.INSTR.,
        TIME - 1200                    N2414F              PX-  0  0  0  DUAL                      AGE 38, 1033 TOTAL HOURS,
                                       DAMAGE-SUBSTANTIAL  OT-  0  0  0                            210 IN TYPE, INSTRUMENT
                                                                                                   RATED.
        NAME OF AIRPORT - GROVE CITY
        DEPARTURE POINT             INTENDED DESTINATION
          GROVE CITY,PA               LOCAL
        TYPE OF ACCIDENT                                         PHASE OF OPERATION
           HARD LANDING                                             LANDING: LEVEL OFF/TOUCHDOWN
           COLLIDED WITH: DIRT BANK                                 TAKEOFF: ABORTED
        PROBABLE CAUSE(S)
           DUAL STUDENT - IMPROPER LEVEL OFF
           PILOT IN COMMAND - DELAYED IN INITIATING GO-AROUND
           PILOT IN COMMAND - INADEQUATE SUPERVISION OF FLIGHT
           DUAL STUDENT - FAILURE TO RELINQUISH CONTROL
        FACTOR(S)
           MISCELLANEOUS ACTS,CONDITIONS - TOUCH AND GO LANDING
        REMARKS- DURING ATTEMPTED GO-AROUND STUDENT PLT FROZE ON CONTROLS.INST PLT UNABLE GAIN CONTROL OF A/C.
```

## Aircraft

- Registration: [N2414F](https://openairdocs.org/deregistered/N2414F-1988-12-02), registration cancelled 1988-12-02, S/N 3879A0430 (OpenAirDocs)
- Reported make and model: PIPER PA-38
- Registry model: [Piper PA-38-112](https://openairdocs.org/model/piper-pa-38-112) (registry code 7103812) (OpenAirDocs)
- Category: Airplane
- Engines: reciprocating
- Damage: Substantial damage
- Airport: Grove City

## FAA reports on this event (1)

The FAA's own accident and incident reports, matched to the aircraft by N-number and date (OpenAirDocs).

- [Accident 19801121074219A](https://openairdocs.org/incident/19801121074219A), Nov 21, 1980: Piper PA38112, Grove City, PA, Substantial damage. Bounced, drifted off runway. Student froze on controls. CFI took over too late. Airplane ran down embankment.

From the NTSB's public API. Aircraft are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported serial number, make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model.

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