# NTSB NYC82DA191: Piper PA-38-112, N2361K, Poestenkill, NY, August 6, 1982

- Type: NTSB accident investigation
- Classification: Accident · No injuries · Final report
- Date: August 6, 1982, 18:30 local (22:30 UTC)
- Place: Poestenkill, NY
- Coordinates: 42.689216, -73.560455 (estimated)
- Nearby events: https://openairdocs.org/map.md?lat=42.6892&lon=-73.5605&mi=10
- Phase of flight: [Takeoff](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-phases/300) (OpenAirDocs' grouping)
- Highest injury: No injuries
- Injuries: 1 uninjured
- Status: Completed, report August 6, 1983
- Report: Approved by Office Director
- NTSB case key (mKey): 72272
- NTSB case page: https://web.ntsb.gov/investigations/?ntsbnumber=NYC82DA191
- NTSB report (PDF, downloads): https://data.ntsb.gov/carol-repgen/api/Aviation/ReportMain/GenerateNewestReport/72272/pdf
- Page: https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/NYC82DA191

## Sequence of events

In NTSB's coding before 2008 (https://www.ntsb.gov/GILS/Documents/codman.pdf).

- Overrun, takeoff
  - touch-and-go - performed, pilot in command (contributing factor)
  - airspeed - misjudged, pilot in command (contributing factor)
  - distance - misjudged, pilot in command (contributing factor)
  - aborted takeoff - delayed, pilot in command (cause)
  - lack of total experience, pilot in command (contributing factor)

## Analysis

DURING A TOUCH & GO THE PLT RETRACTED THE FLAPS & APPLIED FULL POWER, BUT THE ACFT SEEMED SLUGGISH IN GAINING SPEED. THE PLT APPLIED BRAKES & CUT THE THROTTLE, BUT THE ACFT RAN OFF THE END OF THE RWY COMING TO REST AT THE EDGE OF A SWAMP.

## Aircraft

- Registration: [N2361K](https://openairdocs.org/deregistered/N2361K-1989-06-07), registration cancelled 1989-06-07, S/N 3879A0591 (OpenAirDocs)
- Reported make and model: PIPER PA-38-112
- Registry model: [Piper PA-38-112](https://openairdocs.org/model/piper-pa-38-112) (registry code 7103812) (OpenAirDocs)
- Category: Airplane
- Serial number: 38-79A0591
- Airframe hours: 741
- Engines: LYCOMING O-235-L2C 112 horsepower reciprocating
- Damage: Substantial damage
- Flight: Instructional, Part 91
- Operator: Rensselaer Aviation
- Registered owner: Rensselaer Aviation
- Departed: 5B7, POESTENKILL, NY
- Destination: 5B7, POESTENKILL, NY
- Airport: 5B7, Rensselaer, runway 36, 2,800 × 60 ft, asphalt

## Flight crew

As NTSB recorded them. NTSB leaves out names.

- Pilot; age 26; student; medical: class 3, valid medical--w/ waivers/lim; flight hours: 27 total, 27 in this make and model, 3 as pilot in command, 2 in the last 90 days

## Weather

- Conditions: Visual (VMC), Day
- Wind: 360° at 5 knots
- Visibility: 7 statute miles
- Altimeter: 30.00 inHg

## Other investigations on N2361K (1)

From the NTSB's public API. Aircraft are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported serial number, make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model.

- [NTSB NYC89LA065](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/NYC89LA065), Jan 14, 1989: Piper PA-38-112 (N2361K), Albany, NY, substantial damage. Probable cause: FUEL EXHAUSTION RESULTING FROM THE PILOT'S INADEQUATE IN-FLIGHT PLANNING AND MISJUDGED FUEL CONSUMPTION.

From the NTSB's public API. Aircraft are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported serial number, make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model.

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