# NTSB NYC82DA232: Cessna 185F, N1344Q, Lake George, NY, August 8, 1982

- Type: NTSB accident investigation
- Classification: Accident · No injuries · Final report
- Date: August 8, 1982, 13:30 local (17:30 UTC)
- Place: Lake George, NY
- Coordinates: 43.419128, -73.709846 (estimated)
- Nearby events: https://openairdocs.org/map.md?lat=43.4191&lon=-73.7098&mi=10
- Phase of flight: [Landing](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-phases/550) (OpenAirDocs' grouping)
- Highest injury: No injuries
- Injuries: 4 uninjured
- Status: Completed, report August 8, 1983
- Report: Approved by Office Director
- NTSB case key (mKey): 71322
- NTSB case page: https://web.ntsb.gov/investigations/?ntsbnumber=NYC82DA232
- NTSB report (PDF, downloads): https://data.ntsb.gov/carol-repgen/api/Aviation/ReportMain/GenerateNewestReport/71322/pdf
- Page: https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/NYC82DA232

## Sequence of events

In NTSB's coding before 2008 (https://www.ntsb.gov/GILS/Documents/codman.pdf).

- Hard landing, landing - flare/touchdown
  - terrain condition - water,glassy (contributing factor)
  - climb - improper, pilot in command (cause)
  - descent - improper, pilot in command (cause)
  - flare - misjudged, pilot in command (cause)
  - recovery from bounced landing - performed, pilot in command (contributing factor)
  - go-around - performed, pilot in command (cause)

## Analysis

WITNESSES TO THE ACCIDENT DESCRIBED A NOSE UP PITCH ATTITUDE OF BETWEEN THIRTY AND FORTY-FIVE DEGREES DURING THE INITIAL CLIMB AFTER DEPARTING LAKE GEORGE. AT SEVERAL HUNDRED FEET ABOVE THE GROUND, THE AIRCRAFT WAS OBSERVED TO MAKE A DESENDING LEFT TURN TO THE SURFACE OF THE LAKE. THE SUBSEQUENT TOUCHDOWN ON THE LAKE'S SURFACE WAS DESCRIBED BY WITNESSES AS HARD WITH THE AIRCRAFT IN A LEFT WING LOW ATTITUDE. THE AIRCRAFT WAS THEN OBSERVED TO BOUNCE AND DEPART THE AREA FOR APPROXIMATELY THIRTY MINUTES BEFORE RETURNING FOR A NORMAL LANDING.

## Aircraft

- Registration: [N1344Q](https://openairdocs.org/deregistered/N1344Q-2018-03-20), registration cancelled 2018-03-20, S/N 18503477 (OpenAirDocs)
- Reported make and model: CESSNA 185F
- Registry model: [Cessna A185F](https://openairdocs.org/model/cessna-a185f) (registry code 2072821) (OpenAirDocs)
- Category: Airplane
- Serial number: 18503477
- Engines: CONTINENTAL IO-520D 300 horsepower reciprocating
- Damage: Substantial damage
- Flight: Personal, Part 91
- Operator: William J. Barton,Jr.
- Registered owner: William Barton
- Departed: LAKE GEORGE, NY
- Destination: FRG, FARMINGDALE, NY
- Airport: Lake George

## Flight crew

As NTSB recorded them. NTSB leaves out names.

- Pilot; age 30; airline transport; airplane ratings: single-engine sea, multi-engine land; instrument ratings: airplane; medical: class 1, valid medical--w/ waivers/lim; flight hours: 5,500 total

## Weather

- Conditions: Visual (VMC), Day
- Wind: 160° at 10 knots
- Visibility: 4 statute miles
- Lowest ceiling: 1,500 ft broken
- Temperature: 181 °F
- Altimeter: 29.00 inHg
- Observed at: GFL, 6 nm away

## FAA reports on this event (1)

The FAA's own accident and incident reports, matched to the aircraft by N-number and date (OpenAirDocs).

- [Accident 19820808036319A](https://openairdocs.org/incident/19820808036319A), Aug 8, 1982: Cessna A185F, Lake George, NY, Substantial damage. Aircraft stalled after takeoff and settled back into water causing substantial damage to airframe and float.

## Other investigations on N1344Q (2)

From the NTSB's public API. Aircraft are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported serial number, make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model.

- [NTSB ATL07LA120](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/ATL07LA120), Aug 26, 2007: Cessna A185F (N1344Q), Danube, NY, substantial damage. Probable cause: The pilot's mismanagement of the fuel supply.
- [NTSB CHI78FET13](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/CHI78FET13), Jan 24, 1978: Cessna A185F (N1344Q), Berrien Spring, MI, substantial damage

From the NTSB's public API. Aircraft are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported serial number, make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model.

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