# NTSB NYC82FFA05: Navion A, N91662, Hancock, NY, May 16, 1982

- Type: NTSB accident investigation
- Classification: Accident · Serious injuries · Final report
- Date: May 16, 1982, 16:50 local (20:50 UTC)
- Place: Hancock, NY
- Location: 41.9473° N, 75.2853° W: Placed by OpenAirDocs: center of Hancock, NY, within about 6 miles (OpenAirDocs)
- Nearby events: https://openairdocs.org/map.md?lat=41.9473&lon=-75.2853&mi=10
- Phase of flight: [Initial climb](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-phases/350) (OpenAirDocs' grouping)
- Highest injury: Serious injuries
- Injuries: 2 serious, 2 minor
- Status: Completed, report May 16, 1983
- Report: Approved by Office Director
- NTSB case key (mKey): 70953
- NTSB case page: https://web.ntsb.gov/investigations/?ntsbnumber=NYC82FFA05
- NTSB report (PDF, downloads): https://data.ntsb.gov/carol-repgen/api/Aviation/ReportMain/GenerateNewestReport/70953/pdf
- Page: https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/NYC82FFA05

## Sequence of events

In NTSB's coding before 2008 (https://www.ntsb.gov/GILS/Documents/codman.pdf).

- In flight collision with terrain/water, takeoff - initial climb
  - hydraulic system - undetermined (cause)
  - airspeed - not possible, pilot in command
  - stall/mush - inadvertent, pilot in command

## Analysis

THE PILOT REPORTED THAT DURING TAKEOFF, HE CLIMBED TO ABOUT 20 TO 30 FT AND RAISED THE GEAR. AT ABOUT THAT TIME, THE AIRCRAFT BEGAN TO SINK. HE STATED THAT HE PULLED THE POWER OFF JUST BEFORE THE AIRCRAFT HIT THE GROUND A FEW MILES FROM THE AIRPORT. AN INVESTIGATION REVEALED THAT THE FLAPS WERE NOT DAMAGED, AS IF THEY WERE NOT EXTENDED DURING IMPACT. HOWEVER, THE FLAP CONTROL WAS FOUND IN THE DOWN POSITION. THE FLAPS WERE FOUND ABOUT 20 DEG DOWN AND THE FLAP INDICATOR WAS INDICATING ABOUT 1/3 DOWN. THE INVESTIGATOR CAPPED OFF A BROKEN LANDING GEAR HYDRAULIC LINE AND FILLED THE HYDRAULIC RESERVOIR, BUT THE HAND PUMP WOULD NOT OPERATE DUE TO AIR IN THE SYSTEM THE ENGINE WAS THEN RUN, AND AFTER THAT, THE HYDRAULIC SYSTEM OPERATED NORMALLY. THE PILOT SUSPECTED THAT THE FLAPS CAME UP WHEN HE RAISED THE GEAR AFTER TAKEOFF. THIS AIRCRAFT WAS EQUIPPED WITH A FLAP SYSTEM THAT WAS TO BE SET EITHER FULL UP OF FULL DOWN. AN INTERMEDIATE SELECTION WOULD NOT INSURE A POSITIVE SELECTED POSITION.

## Aircraft

- Registration: [N91662](https://openairdocs.org/aircraft/N91662), registered now, S/N NAV-4-410 (OpenAirDocs)
- Reported make and model: NAVION A
- Registry model: [North American NAVION A](https://openairdocs.org/model/north-american-navion-a) (registry code 6150132) (OpenAirDocs)
- Registry engine: [Continental E185 series](https://openairdocs.org/engine/continental-e185-series) (registry code 17014, reciprocating) (OpenAirDocs)
- Category: Airplane
- Serial number: NAV4-410
- Airframe hours: 6238
- Engines: CONTINENTAL E-185 205 horsepower reciprocating
- Damage: Substantial damage
- Flight: Personal, Part 91
- Operator: Joseph J. Schnider
- Registered owner: Joseph J. Schnider
- Departed: HANCOCK, NY
- Destination: DANBURY, CT
- Airport: Hancock, runway 18, 3,400 × 100 ft, grass/turf

## Flight crew

As NTSB recorded them. NTSB leaves out names.

- Pilot; age 58; airline transport; airplane ratings: single-engine land, multi-engine land; instrument ratings: airplane; medical: class 1, valid medical--w/ waivers/lim; flight hours: 18,350 total, 340 in this make and model, 13,050 as pilot in command, 120 in the last 90 days

## Weather

- Conditions: Visual (VMC), Day
- Wind: 130° at 10 knots
- Visibility: 10 statute miles
- Temperature: 158 °F

## FAA reports on this event (1)

The FAA's own accident and incident reports, matched to the aircraft by N-number and date (OpenAirDocs).

- [Accident 19820516016119A](https://openairdocs.org/incident/19820516016119A), May 16, 1982: Tmpson NAVIONA, Hancock, NY, Substantial damage. Aircraft stalled as pilot raised landing gear after takeoff. Airplane settled into ground.

## Other investigations on N91662 (1)

From the NTSB's public API. Aircraft are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported serial number, make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model.

- [NTSB NYC67F0415](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/NYC67F0415), Dec 6, 1966: Navion A (N91662), Washington, DC, substantial damage

From the NTSB's public API. Aircraft are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported serial number, make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model.

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