# NTSB NYC83FA105: Piper PA-38-112, N2580L, Farmingdale, NY, April 30, 1983

- Type: NTSB accident investigation
- Classification: Accident · Fatal · Field investigation · Final report
- Date: April 30, 1983, 07:56 local (11:56 UTC)
- Place: Farmingdale, NY
- Coordinates: 40.730743, -73.439941 (estimated)
- Nearby events: https://openairdocs.org/map.md?lat=40.7307&lon=-73.4399&mi=10
- Phase of flight: [Maneuvering](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-phases/450) (OpenAirDocs' grouping)
- Highest injury: Fatal
- Injuries: 2 fatal
- Status: Completed
- Report: Approved by Office Director
- NTSB case key (mKey): 35041
- NTSB case page: https://web.ntsb.gov/investigations/?ntsbnumber=NYC83FA105
- NTSB report (PDF, downloads): https://data.ntsb.gov/carol-repgen/api/Aviation/ReportMain/GenerateNewestReport/35041/pdf
- Page: https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/NYC83FA105

## Sequence of events

In NTSB's coding before 2008 (https://www.ntsb.gov/GILS/Documents/codman.pdf).

- Loss of control - in flight, maneuvering - turn to landing area (emergency)
  - supervision - inadequate, pilot in command(cfi) (cause)
  - weather condition - high wind (contributing factor)
  - emergency procedure - simulated, pilot in command(cfi)
  - precautionary landing - initiated, dual student
  - airspeed - not maintained, dual student (cause)
  - remedial action - delayed, pilot in command(cfi) (cause)
  - stall - inadvertent (cause)
- In flight collision with terrain/water, descent - uncontrolled

## Analysis

BEFORE THE ACFT TOOK OFF, THE TOWER RECEIVED A RADIO CALL FROM THE PLANE REQUESTING 'IS THERE ANYWAY WE CAN GET A SIMULATED ENG FAILURE AFTER TAKEOFF & LAND DOWNWIND.' THE AIRCREW INDICATED THEY WOULD CLIMB TO 600 FT, THEN BEGIN THE SIMULATED EMERGENCY. THE REQUEST WAS APPROVED. AFTER TAKING OFF ON RWY 19, THE ACFT WAS OBSERVED TO ENTER A LEFT TURN, THEN ENTER A STEEP DIVE, CRASH & BURN. AN EXAM OF THE WRECKAGE REVEALED NO PREIMPACT, MECHANICAL MALFUNCTION OR FAILURE. THE PROPELLER BLADES WERE BENT & 1 BLADE WAS TWISTED.

## Aircraft

- Registration: [N2580L](https://openairdocs.org/deregistered/N2580L-2011-09-29), registration cancelled 2011-09-29, S/N 38-79A0770, built 1979 (OpenAirDocs)
- Reported make and model: PIPER PA-38-112
- Registry model: [Piper PA-38-112](https://openairdocs.org/model/piper-pa-38-112) (registry code 7103812) (OpenAirDocs)
- Registry engine: [Lycoming 0-235 series](https://openairdocs.org/engine/lycoming-0-235-series) (registry code 41505, 4 cycle) (OpenAirDocs)
- Category: Airplane
- Serial number: 79-AO 770
- Airframe hours: 1540
- Engines: LYCOMING O-235-L2C 112 horsepower reciprocating
- Damage: Destroyed
- Fire: On-Ground
- Flight: Instructional, Part 91
- Registered owner: Flightways Of Long Island
- Airworthiness certificate: Standard, Normal
- Last inspection: Unknown, December 15, 1982, 79 hours before
- Airport: FRG, Republic, runway 19, 5,151 × 150 ft, asphalt

## Flight crew

As NTSB recorded them. NTSB leaves out names.

- Pilot; commercial, flight instructor; airplane ratings: single-engine land, multi-engine land; instrument ratings: airplane; medical: class 2, valid medical--no waivers/lim.; seat: right; toxicology performed; flight hours: 1,074 total, 500 in this make and model, 922 as pilot in command, 221 in the last 90 days, 5 in the last 24 hours

## Weather

- Conditions: Visual (VMC), Day
- Wind: 200° at 16 knots
- Visibility: 6 statute miles
- Lowest ceiling: 10,000 ft broken
- Altimeter: 30.00 inHg
- Observed at: FRG

From the NTSB's public API. Aircraft are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported serial number, make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model.

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