# NTSB NYC83IA013: Piper J3C-65, N25973, Augusta, ME, October 25, 1982 - Type: NTSB incident investigation - Classification: Incident · No injuries · Incident investigation · Final report - Date: October 25, 1982, 15:15 local (19:15 UTC) - Place: Augusta, ME - Location: 44.3207° N, 69.7973° W: Placed by OpenAirDocs at AUGUSTA STATE (AUG), within about a mile (OpenAirDocs) - Nearby events: https://openairdocs.org/map.md?lat=44.3207&lon=-69.7973&mi=10 - Phase of flight: [Taxi](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-phases/250) (OpenAirDocs' grouping) - Highest injury: No injuries - Injuries: 4 uninjured - Status: Completed, report October 25, 1983 - Report: Approved by Office Director - NTSB case key (mKey): 69845 - NTSB case page: https://web.ntsb.gov/investigations/?ntsbnumber=NYC83IA013 - NTSB report (PDF, downloads): https://data.ntsb.gov/carol-repgen/api/Aviation/ReportMain/GenerateNewestReport/69845/pdf - Page: https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/NYC83IA013 ## Sequence of events In NTSB's coding before 2008 (https://www.ntsb.gov/GILS/Documents/codman.pdf). - On ground/water collision with object, taxi - from landing - radio communications - not possible - object - aircraft parked/standing (contributing factor) - visual lookout - inadequate, dual student (cause) - supervision - inadequate, pilot in command(cfi) (cause) - maneuver - not performed, pilot of other aircraft (cause) - On ground/water collision with object, taxi - to takeoff - object - aircraft moving on ground (contributing factor) - visual lookout - inadequate, pilot of other aircraft (cause) - maneuver - not performed, pilot in command(cfi) (cause) ## Analysis (aircraft 2) THE STUDENT AND FLIGHT INSTRUCTOR (CFI) OF CESSNA 172, N5742T, STARTED TO TAXI WHILE THE STUDENT AND CFI OF PIPER JC3-65, N25973, WERE LANDING. THE CESSNA AIRCREW SAW THE PIPER LAND AND TURN OFF ONTO THE SAME TAXIWAY THAT THEY WERE ON, BUT FROM THE OPPOSITE DIRECTION. THEY STOPPED THE CESSNA ON THE EDGE OF THE TAXIWAY WITH THE RIGHT WHEEL JUST ON THE PAVEMENT TO MAKE ROOM FOR THE OTHER PLANE TO PASS. THE PIPER (WITH NO RADIO) WAS S-TURNING SO AS TO SEE AHEAD. THE CFI OF THE PIPER STATED THAT HE HAD UNBUCKLED AND PULLED HIMSELF UP TWICE TO LOOK OVER THE TOP OF THE DASHBOARD, BUT SAW NOTHING AHEAD. THE CFI OF THE CESSNA STATED THAT WHEN THE PIPER WAS ABOUT 200 FT AWAY, IT TURNED AS THOUGH TO PASS, BUT WHEN IT WAS ABOUT 50 FT AWAY, IT CHANGED DIRECTIONS AND RAN INTO HIS AIRCRAFT HE STATED THAT THE CESSNA WAS STOPPED WITH THE BRAKES ON FOR ABOUT 20 SEC BEFORE THE COLLISION. BOTH AIRCRAFT RECEIVED ONLY MINOR DAMAGE. ## Analysis (aircraft 1) THE STUDENT AND FLIGHT INSTRUCTOR (CFI) OF CESSNA 172, N5742T, STARTED TO TAXI WHILE THE STUDENT AND CFI OF PIPER JC3-65, N25973, WERE LANDING. THE CESSNA AIRCREW SAW THE PIPER LAND AND TURN OFF ONTO THE SAME TAXIWAY THAT THEY WERE ON, BUT FROM THE OPPOSITE DIRECTION. THEY STOPPED THE CESSNA ON THE EDGE OF THE TAXIWAY WITH THE RIGHT WHEEL JUST ON THE PAVEMENT TO MAKE ROOM FOR THE OTHER PLANE TO PASS. THE PIPER (WITH NO RADIO) WAS S-TURNING SO AS TO SEE AHEAD. THE CFI OF THE PIPER STATED THAT HE HAD UNBUCKLED AND PULLED HIMSELF UP TWICE TO LOOK OVER THE TOP OF THE DASHBOARD, BUT SAW NOTHING AHEAD. THE CFI OF THE CESSNA STATED THAT WHEN THE PIPER WAS ABOUT 200 FT AWAY, IT TURNED AS THOUGH TO PASS, BUT WHEN IT WAS ABOUT 50 FT AWAY, IT CHANGED DIRECTIONS AND RAN INTO HIS AIRCRAFT. HE STATED THAT THE CESSNA WAS STOPPED WITH THE BRAKES ON FOR ABOUT 20 SEC BEFORE THE COLLISION. BOTH AIRCRAFT RECEIVED ONLY MINOR DAMAGE. ## Aircraft 1 - Registration: [N25973](https://openairdocs.org/aircraft/N25973), registered now, S/N 3927, built 1939 (OpenAirDocs) - Reported make and model: PIPER J3C-65 - Registry model: [Piper J3C-65](https://openairdocs.org/model/piper-j3c-65) (registry code 7100510) (OpenAirDocs) - Registry engine: [Continental 0-200 series](https://openairdocs.org/engine/continental-0-200-series) (registry code 17020, reciprocating) (OpenAirDocs) - Category: Airplane - Serial number: 3927 - Airframe hours: 3704 - Engines: CONTINENTAL O-200-A 65 horsepower reciprocating - Damage: Minor damage - Flight: Instructional, Part 91 - Operator: Balloon Drifters, Inc. - Registered owner: Balloon Drifters, Inc. - Departed: AUG, AUGUSTA, ME - Destination: AUG, AUGUSTA, ME - Airport: AUG, Augusta, runway 17, 4,199 × 150 ft, asphalt ## Aircraft 2 - Registration: [N5742T](https://openairdocs.org/aircraft/N5742T), registered now, S/N 17251642 (OpenAirDocs) - Reported make and model: CESSNA 172E - Registry model: [Cessna 172E](https://openairdocs.org/model/cessna-172e) (registry code 2072412) (OpenAirDocs) - Registry engine: [Continental 0-300 series](https://openairdocs.org/engine/continental-0-300-series) (registry code 17022, reciprocating) (OpenAirDocs) - Category: Airplane - Serial number: 1725642 - Airframe hours: 2547 - Engines: CONTINENTAL O-300-D 145 horsepower reciprocating - Damage: Minor damage - Flight: Instructional, Part 91 - Operator: Peter Murphy - Registered owner: Peter Murphy - Departed: AUG, AUGUSTA, ME - Destination: AUG, AUGUSTA, ME - Airport: AUG, Augusta ## Flight crew As NTSB recorded them. NTSB leaves out names. - Pilot, aircraft N25973; age 30; commercial, flight instructor; airplane ratings: single-engine land, single-engine sea; instrument ratings: airplane; medical: class 2, valid medical--no waivers/lim.; flight hours: 1,104 total, 43 in this make and model, 1,006 as pilot in command, 301 in the last 90 days - Pilot, aircraft N5742T; age 38; flight instructor, commercial; airplane ratings: single-engine land; instrument ratings: airplane; medical: class 2, valid medical--no waivers/lim.; flight hours: 579 total, 36 in this make and model, 28 as pilot in command, 27 in the last 90 days ## Weather - Conditions: Visual (VMC), Day - Visibility: 25 statute miles ## FAA reports on this event (2) The FAA's own accident and incident reports, matched to the aircraft by N-number and date (OpenAirDocs). - [Accident 19821025067021A](https://openairdocs.org/incident/19821025067021A), Oct 25, 1982: Piper J3C65, Augusta, ME, Minor damage. Collided with Cessna 5742T while taxiing to ramp. The outbound Cessna was stopped at time of impact. - [Accident 19821025067022A](https://openairdocs.org/incident/19821025067022A), Oct 25, 1982: Cessna 172E, Augusta, ME, Minor damage. Was struck by an inbound J3, N25973, while stopped on the taxiway to await passage of the J3 prior to taxi to rwy From the NTSB's public API. Aircraft are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported serial number, make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model. --- OpenAirDocs.org is an independent research project of [Contrail Labs](https://contraillabs.com/). It is not affiliated with the FAA or the NTSB. Source documents are U.S. government works in the public domain.