# NTSB NYC83LA230: Piper PA-22, N5185Z, West Bloomfield, NY, August 29, 1983

- Type: NTSB accident investigation
- Classification: Accident · No injuries · Limited investigation · Final report
- Date: August 29, 1983, 19:30 local (23:30 UTC)
- Place: West Bloomfield, NY
- Location: 42.9059° N, 77.5392° W: Placed by OpenAirDocs: center of West Bloomfield, NY, within about 6 miles (OpenAirDocs)
- Nearby events: https://openairdocs.org/map.md?lat=42.9059&lon=-77.5392&mi=10
- Phase of flight: [Approach](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-phases/500) (OpenAirDocs' grouping)
- Highest injury: No injuries
- Injuries: 1 uninjured
- Status: Completed
- Report: Approved by Office Director
- NTSB case key (mKey): 35266
- NTSB case page: https://web.ntsb.gov/investigations/?ntsbnumber=NYC83LA230
- NTSB report (PDF, downloads): https://data.ntsb.gov/carol-repgen/api/Aviation/ReportMain/GenerateNewestReport/35266/pdf
- Page: https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/NYC83LA230

## Sequence of events

In NTSB's coding before 2008 (https://www.ntsb.gov/GILS/Documents/codman.pdf).

- Loss of engine power(total) - nonmechanical, approach
  - fuel system,primer system - unlocked (cause)
  - fuel system - improper use of, pilot in command (cause)
- Forced landing, landing
- On ground/water encounter with terrain/water, landing - roll
  - terrain condition - high vegetation (contributing factor)
  - terrain condition - soft (contributing factor)
  - terrain condition - rough/uneven (contributing factor)

## Analysis

REPORTEDLY, THE PLT WAS RETURNING TO THE DEPARTURE ARPT TO LAND WHEN THE ENG LOST POWER. SUBSEQUENTLY, THE ACFT WAS DAMAGED DURING A FORCED LANDING IN A CORN FIELD. AN EXAM OF THE ENG REVEALED EXCESSIVE CARBON IN THE EXHAUST STACK. ALSO, THE PRIMER WAS FOUND NOT FULLY CLOSED. REPORTEDLY, THE ENG WAS RUNNING RICH WITH PRIMER IN THAT POSITION.

## Aircraft

- Registration: [N5185Z](https://openairdocs.org/aircraft/N5185Z), registered now, S/N 22-8852 (OpenAirDocs)
- Reported make and model: PIPER PA-22
- Registry model: [Piper PA-22-108](https://openairdocs.org/model/piper-pa-22-108) (registry code 7102204) (OpenAirDocs)
- Registry engine: [Lycoming 0-235 series](https://openairdocs.org/engine/lycoming-0-235-series) (registry code 41505, 4 cycle) (OpenAirDocs)
- Category: Airplane
- Serial number: 22-8852
- Engines: LYCOMING O-235-C1B 108 horsepower reciprocating
- Damage: Substantial damage
- Flight: Personal, Part 91
- Registered owner: Charles A. Kircher
- Airworthiness certificate: Standard, Normal
- Last inspection: Annual, August 5, 1983, 1,298 hours before
- Departed: W. BLOOMFIELD, NY

## Flight crew

As NTSB recorded them. NTSB leaves out names.

- Pilot; private; airplane ratings: single-engine land; medical: unknown, unknown

## Weather

- Conditions: Visual (VMC), Day
- Visibility: 15 statute miles

## FAA reports on this event (1)

The FAA's own accident and incident reports, matched to the aircraft by N-number and date (OpenAirDocs).

- [Accident 19830829050059A](https://openairdocs.org/incident/19830829050059A), Aug 29, 1983: Piper PA22108, West Bloomfield, NY, Substantial damage. Engine quit on final. Force landed off airport. Engine had been operated with open primer, carboned up and quit.

From the NTSB's public API. Aircraft are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported serial number, make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model.

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