# NTSB NYC84LA068: Cessna 150, N8108U, Seneca Falls, NY, January 12, 1984

- Type: NTSB accident investigation
- Classification: Accident · No injuries · Limited investigation · Final report
- Date: January 12, 1984, 16:15 local (21:15 UTC)
- Place: Seneca Falls, NY
- Coordinates: 42.909698, -76.789962 (estimated)
- Nearby events: https://openairdocs.org/map.md?lat=42.9097&lon=-76.7900&mi=10
- Phase of flight: [Landing](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-phases/550) (OpenAirDocs' grouping)
- Highest injury: No injuries
- Injuries: 2 uninjured
- Status: Completed
- Report: Approved by Office Director
- NTSB case key (mKey): 35489
- NTSB case page: https://web.ntsb.gov/investigations/?ntsbnumber=NYC84LA068
- NTSB report (PDF, downloads): https://data.ntsb.gov/carol-repgen/api/Aviation/ReportMain/GenerateNewestReport/35489/pdf
- Page: https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/NYC84LA068

## Sequence of events

In NTSB's coding before 2008 (https://www.ntsb.gov/GILS/Documents/codman.pdf).

- Loss of control - on ground/water, landing - roll
  - weather condition - gusts (contributing factor)
  - directional control - not maintained, pilot in command (cause)
  - airport facilities,runway/landing area condition - snow covered (contributing factor)
  - ground loop/swerve - not corrected, pilot in command (cause)
  - airport facilities,runway/landing area condition - icy (contributing factor)
- Nose over, landing - roll

## Analysis

DURING THE LANDING ROLLOUT THE ACFT HIT AN ICY PATCH OF RWY AND AT THE SAME TIME ENCOUNTERED A GUSTY CROSSWIND. THE ACFTSKIDDED INTO A SNOWBANK AND NOSED OVER.

## Aircraft

- Registration: [N8108U](https://openairdocs.org/aircraft/N8108U), registered now, S/N 15077885, built 1976 (OpenAirDocs)
- Reported make and model: CESSNA 150
- Registry model: [Cessna 150M](https://openairdocs.org/model/cessna-150m) (registry code 2071830) (OpenAirDocs)
- Registry engine: [Continental 0-200 series](https://openairdocs.org/engine/continental-0-200-series) (registry code 17020, reciprocating) (OpenAirDocs)
- Category: Airplane
- Serial number: 15077885
- Airframe hours: 3700
- Engines: LYCOMING O-200A 100 horsepower reciprocating
- Damage: Substantial damage
- Flight: Personal, Part 91
- Registered owner: Raymond W. Copp
- Airworthiness certificate: Standard, Utility
- Last inspection: Annual, January 1, 1984
- Departed: OG7, SENECA FALLS, NY
- Airport: 0G7, Seneca Falls, runway 18, 3,200 × 50 ft, asphalt

## Flight crew

As NTSB recorded them. NTSB leaves out names.

- Pilot; age 33; private; airplane ratings: single-engine land; medical: class 3, valid medical--no waivers/lim.; flight hours: 52 total, 52 in this make and model, 28 as pilot in command, 28 in the last 90 days, 2 in the last 24 hours

## Weather

- Conditions: Visual (VMC), Day
- Wind: 180° at 3 knots
- Visibility: 15 statute miles
- Lowest ceiling: none
- Temperature: 19 °F, dew point -0 °F
- Altimeter: 30.00 inHg

## FAA reports on this event (1)

The FAA's own accident and incident reports, matched to the aircraft by N-number and date (OpenAirDocs).

- [Accident 19840112008499A](https://openairdocs.org/incident/19840112008499A), Jan 12, 1984: Cessna 150M, Seneca Falls, NY, Substantial damage. Aircraft slid off runway into snowbank and flipped inverted during landing roll.

From the NTSB's public API. Aircraft are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported serial number, make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model.

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