# NTSB NYC84LA191: Cessna 182R II, N9845H, Fulton, NY, June 10, 1984

- Type: NTSB accident investigation
- Classification: Accident · No injuries · Limited investigation · Final report
- Date: June 9, 1984, 22:00 local (Jun 10, 1984, 02:00 UTC)
- Place: Fulton, NY
- Location: 43.3192° N, 76.4197° W: Placed by OpenAirDocs: center of Fulton, NY, within about 6 miles (OpenAirDocs)
- Nearby events: https://openairdocs.org/map.md?lat=43.3192&lon=-76.4197&mi=10
- Phase of flight: [Landing](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-phases/550) (OpenAirDocs' grouping)
- Highest injury: No injuries
- Injuries: 1 uninjured
- Status: Completed
- Report: Approved by Office Director
- NTSB case key (mKey): 35668
- NTSB case page: https://web.ntsb.gov/investigations/?ntsbnumber=NYC84LA191
- NTSB report (PDF, downloads): https://data.ntsb.gov/carol-repgen/api/Aviation/ReportMain/GenerateNewestReport/35668/pdf
- Page: https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/NYC84LA191

## Sequence of events

In NTSB's coding before 2008 (https://www.ntsb.gov/GILS/Documents/codman.pdf).

- Hard landing, landing - flare/touchdown
  - flare - improper, pilot in command (cause)
  - lack of total experience in kind of aircraft, pilot in command (contributing factor)
  - light condition - night (contributing factor)
- Loss of control - in flight, landing
  - recovery from bounced landing - improper, pilot in command (contributing factor)
  - stall - inadvertent, pilot in command (cause)
- In flight collision with terrain/water, landing
  - airport facilities,runway/landing area condition - runway

## Analysis

WHEN THE ACFT BOUNCED INTO THE AIR ON A HARD LANDING AT NIGHT, THE PLT APPLIED BACK PRESSURE ON THE YOKE. ACFT STALLED BACK TO THE RUNWAY, DAMAGING NOSE GEAR/FIREWALL STRUCTURE AND LEFT WING TIP. PLT STATED MOST OF HIS EXPERIENCE WAS IN ACFT CONFIGURED WITH CONVENTIONAL LNDG GEAR (TAIL WHEEL) AND THAT HE WAS NOT SURE OF PROPER PROCEDURES FOR A BOUNCED LANDING RECOVERY IN ACFT CONFIGURED WITH TRICYCLE LNDG GEAR.

## Aircraft

- Registration: [N9845H](https://openairdocs.org/aircraft/N9845H), registered now, S/N 18268065, built 1981 (OpenAirDocs)
- Reported make and model: CESSNA 182R II
- Registry model: [Cessna 182R](https://openairdocs.org/model/cessna-182r) (registry code 2072731) (OpenAirDocs)
- Registry engine: [Continental O-470 series](https://openairdocs.org/engine/continental-o-470-series) (registry code 17026, reciprocating) (OpenAirDocs)
- Category: Airplane
- Serial number: 18268065
- Airframe hours: 350
- Engines: CONTINENTAL O-470-U 235 horsepower reciprocating
- Damage: Substantial damage
- Flight: Personal, Part 91
- Registered owner: Doty, James C.
- Airworthiness certificate: Standard, Normal
- Airport: N00, Oswego Co., runway 24, 4,000 × 100 ft, macadam

## Flight crew

As NTSB recorded them. NTSB leaves out names.

- Pilot; age 56; commercial; airplane ratings: single-engine land, multi-engine land; instrument ratings: airplane; medical: class 3, valid medical--w/ waivers/lim; seat: left; flight hours: 1,375 total, 56 in this make and model, 1,125 as pilot in command, 25 in the last 90 days, 6 in the last 24 hours

## Weather

- Conditions: Visual (VMC), Night/bright

## FAA reports on this event (1)

The FAA's own accident and incident reports, matched to the aircraft by N-number and date (OpenAirDocs).

- [Accident 19840609029339A](https://openairdocs.org/incident/19840609029339A), Jun 9, 1984: Cessna 182R, Fulton, NY, Substantial damage. Bounced then held back pressure until aircraft stalled and dropped onto runway. Impact damaged gear wing and prop.

## Other investigations on N9845H (1)

From the NTSB's public API. Aircraft are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported serial number, make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model.

- [NTSB CHI92LA069](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/CHI92LA069), Jan 11, 1992: Cessna 182 (N9845H), Lake Elmo, MN, substantial damage. Probable cause: THE PROPER TOUCHDOWN POINT WAS NOT ATTAINED AND AN ABORTED LANDING WAS DELAYED BY THE PILOT. A FACTOR RELATED TO THE ACCIDENT WAS THE ICY RUNWAY CONDITIONS.

From the NTSB's public API. Aircraft are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported serial number, make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model.

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