# NTSB NYC84LA205: Piper PA-34-200T, N33086, Teterboro, NJ, May 31, 1984

- Type: NTSB accident investigation
- Classification: Accident · Minor injuries · Limited investigation · Final report
- Date: May 31, 1984, 01:30 local (05:30 UTC)
- Place: Teterboro, NJ
- Location: 40.8501° N, 74.0608° W: Placed by OpenAirDocs at TETERBORO (TEB), within about a mile (OpenAirDocs)
- Nearby events: https://openairdocs.org/map.md?lat=40.8501&lon=-74.0608&mi=10
- Phase of flight: [Taxi](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-phases/250) (OpenAirDocs' grouping)
- Highest injury: Minor injuries
- Injuries: 2 minor, 2 uninjured
- Status: Completed
- Report: Approved by Office Director
- NTSB case key (mKey): 35678
- NTSB case page: https://web.ntsb.gov/investigations/?ntsbnumber=NYC84LA205
- NTSB report (PDF, downloads): https://data.ntsb.gov/carol-repgen/api/Aviation/ReportMain/GenerateNewestReport/35678/pdf
- Page: https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/NYC84LA205

## Sequence of events

In NTSB's coding before 2008 (https://www.ntsb.gov/GILS/Documents/codman.pdf).

- On ground/water collision with object, taxi - to takeoff
  - light condition - dark night (contributing factor)
  - weather condition - rain (contributing factor)
  - weather condition - fog (contributing factor)
  - visual lookout - inadequate, pilot in command (cause)
- On ground/water collision with object, standing - engine(s) operating
  - light condition - dark night (contributing factor)
  - weather condition - rain (contributing factor)
  - weather condition - haze/smoke (contributing factor)
  - visual lookout - inadequate, pilot of other aircraft (cause)

## Analysis (aircraft 2)

A PIPER PA-34-200T, N33086 & A PIPER AEROSTAR 600, N8208T, WERE INVOLVED IN AN ON-GROUND COLLISION AT NIGHT. IFR FLT PLANS HAD BEEN FILED FOR BOTH ACFT & THE PLTS OF BOTH ACFT HAD BEGUN TAXIING FOR TAKEOFF. ACCORDING TO THE PA-34 PLT, HE HAD BEEN CLEARED TO TAXI TO RWY 1 VIA TAXIWAYS DELTA, FOXTROT & ECHO & WAS TO HOLD SHORT OF PAPA. AT APRX 200 FT SHORT OF PAPA, THE PA-34 PLT BEGAN SLOWING TO STOP, BUT DID NOT SEE THE AEROSTAR, WHICH WAS HOLDING SHORT OF PAPA, UNTIL JUST BEFORE THE COLLISION. THE PA-34 RECEIVED ONLY MINOR DAMAGE, BUT THE AEROSTAR WAS SUBSTANTIALLY DAMAGED. THE PA-34 PLT CHARACTERIZED HIS VISIBILITY AS POOR DUE TO A COMBINATION OF RAIN CONDITIONS & POOR FRONTAL LIGHTING CAPABILITY OF HIS ACFT.

## Aircraft 1

- Registration: [N33086](https://openairdocs.org/deregistered/N33086-1988-05-13), registration cancelled 1988-05-13, S/N 347570085 (OpenAirDocs)
- Reported make and model: PIPER PA-34-200T
- Registry model: [Piper PA-34-200T](https://openairdocs.org/model/piper-pa-34-200t) (registry code 7103406) (OpenAirDocs)
- Category: Airplane
- Serial number: 34-7570085
- Airframe hours: 3349
- Engines: CONTINENTAL TSIO-360-EB 200 horsepower reciprocating
- Damage: Minor damage
- Flight: Ferry, Part 91
- Operator: Med Air Express
- Registered owner: Debra Morris
- Airworthiness certificate: Standard, Normal
- Destination: BDL, WINDSOR LOCKS, CT
- Flight plan: IFR
- Airport: TEB, Teterboro

## Aircraft 2

- Registration: N8208J (not matched to a registry record)
- Reported make and model: PIPER AEROSTAR 600 (AEROSTAR 6)
- Category: Airplane
- Engines: CONTINENTAL IO-540-G1B5 290 horsepower reciprocating
- Damage: Substantial damage
- Flight: Part 135
- Registered owner: Pichel Air Service
- Airworthiness certificate: Standard, Normal
- Destination: N44, TOMS RIVER, NJ
- Flight plan: IFR
- Airport: TEB, Teterboro

## Flight crew

As NTSB recorded them. NTSB leaves out names.

- Pilot, aircraft N33086; age 22; flight instructor, commercial; airplane ratings: single-engine land, multi-engine land; instrument ratings: airplane; medical: class 1, valid medical--no waivers/lim.; seat: left; flight hours: 1,435 total, 113 in this make and model, 1,217 as pilot in command, 223 in the last 90 days, 3 in the last 24 hours
- Pilot, aircraft N8208J; commercial, airline transport; airplane ratings: single-engine sea, multi-engine sea, multi-engine land; instrument ratings: airplane; medical: class 1, valid medical--no waivers/lim.

## Weather

- Conditions: Instrument (IMC), Night/dark
- Wind: 340° at 9 knots
- Visibility: 5 statute miles
- Lowest ceiling: 800 ft broken
- Temperature: 52 °F, dew point 52 °F
- Altimeter: 29.00 inHg
- Observed at: TEB

From the NTSB's public API. Aircraft are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported serial number, make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model.

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