# NTSB NYC85LA017: Cessna 172P, N64182, Andes, NY, November 1, 1984

- Type: NTSB accident investigation
- Classification: Accident · No injuries · Limited investigation · Final report
- Date: November 1, 1984, 15:14 local (20:14 UTC)
- Place: Andes, NY
- Coordinates: 42.179969, -74.77951 (estimated)
- Nearby events: https://openairdocs.org/map.md?lat=42.1800&lon=-74.7795&mi=10
- Phase of flight: [Enroute](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-phases/400) (OpenAirDocs' grouping)
- Highest injury: No injuries
- Injuries: 2 uninjured
- Status: Completed
- Report: Approved by Office Director
- NTSB case key (mKey): 35639
- NTSB case page: https://web.ntsb.gov/investigations/?ntsbnumber=NYC85LA017
- NTSB report (PDF, downloads): https://data.ntsb.gov/carol-repgen/api/Aviation/ReportMain/GenerateNewestReport/35639/pdf
- Page: https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/NYC85LA017

## Sequence of events

In NTSB's coding before 2008 (https://www.ntsb.gov/GILS/Documents/codman.pdf).

- In flight encounter with weather, cruise - normal
  - planning/decision - improper, pilot in command (contributing factor)
  - weather condition - haze/smoke (contributing factor)
  - flight into known adverse weather - continued, pilot in command (cause)
- In flight collision with terrain/water, takeoff - roll/run
  - precautionary landing - initiated, pilot in command (contributing factor)
  - unsuitable terrain or takeoff/landing/taxi area - selected, pilot in command (cause)
  - aborted landing - delayed, pilot in command (contributing factor)
  - terrain condition - ground (contributing factor)

## Analysis

ACCORDING TO THE PLT, HE ENCOUNTERED DETERIORATING VISIBILITY DUE TO HAZE & HE ELECTED TO LAND IN AN UNIMPROVED FIELD. THE 1ST APPROACH WAS ABORTED; HOWEVER, THE ACFT TOUCHED DOWN ON THE 2ND APPROACH. AFTER TOUCHING DOWN, THE PLT REALIZED THE FIELD WAS TOO SHORT. HE INITIATED A TAKEOFF, BUT THE ACFT WOULD NOT CLEAR BRUSH AT THE END OF THE FIELD & SUBSEQUENTLY COLLIDED WITH THE BRUSH AND TREES.

## Aircraft

- Registration: [N64182](https://openairdocs.org/deregistered/N64182-2013-05-03), registration cancelled 2013-05-03, S/N 17275530, built 1981 (OpenAirDocs)
- Reported make and model: CESSNA 172P
- Registry model: [Cessna 172P](https://openairdocs.org/model/cessna-172p) (registry code 2072436) (OpenAirDocs)
- Registry engine: [Lycoming 0-320 series](https://openairdocs.org/engine/lycoming-0-320-series) (registry code 41508, reciprocating) (OpenAirDocs)
- Category: Airplane
- Serial number: 17275530
- Airframe hours: 802
- Engines: LYCOMING O-320-D2J 160 horsepower reciprocating
- Damage: Destroyed
- Flight: Business, Part 91
- Registered owner: Jhs, Inc.
- Airworthiness certificate: Standard, Utility
- Departed: BGM, BINGHAMTON, NY
- Destination: DXR, DANBURY, CT
- Flight plan: VFR
- Airport: Delaney

## Flight crew

As NTSB recorded them. NTSB leaves out names.

- Pilot; age 53; private; airplane ratings: single-engine land; medical: class 3, valid medical--w/ waivers/lim; seat: left; flight hours: 115 total, 49 in this make and model, 68 as pilot in command, 10 in the last 90 days, 2 in the last 24 hours

## Weather

- Conditions: Visual (VMC), Day
- Wind: 180° at 15 knots
- Visibility: 3 statute miles
- Lowest ceiling: 2,000 ft overcast
- Temperature: 50 °F, dew point 39 °F
- Observed at: ELM

## FAA reports on this event (1)

The FAA's own accident and incident reports, matched to the aircraft by N-number and date (OpenAirDocs).

- [Accident 19841101059469A](https://openairdocs.org/incident/19841101059469A), Nov 1, 1984: Cessna 172P, Andes, NY, Destroyed. Attempted precautionary landing in grass field. Went around. But struck trees. Weather was deteriorating.

## Other investigations on N64182 (2)

From the NTSB's public API. Aircraft are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported serial number, make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model.

- [NTSB ERA12FA483](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/ERA12FA483), Jul 26, 2012: Cessna 172P (N64182), Plainville, CT, substantial damage, 1 fatal. Probable cause: The pilot's failure to maintain the proper glidepath during final approach in visual meteorological conditions, resulting in collision with a berm.
- [NTSB NYC91LA106](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/NYC91LA106), Apr 6, 1991: Cessna 172P (N64182), Burlington, CT, substantial damage. Probable cause: THE FAILURE OF THE PILOT TO MAINTAIN DIRECTIONAL CONTROL DURING THE LANDING. FACTORS RELATED TO THE ACCIDENT WERE: IMPROPER USE OF THE FLIGHT CONTROLS BY THE PILOT, HIS LACK OF RECENT EXPERIENCE AND…

From the NTSB's public API. Aircraft are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported serial number, make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model.

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