# NTSB NYC85LA034: Cessna 172P, N89929, Madison, CT, November 25, 1984

- Type: NTSB accident investigation
- Classification: Accident · No injuries · Limited investigation · Final report
- Date: November 25, 1984, 12:35 local (17:35 UTC)
- Place: Madison, CT
- Location: 41.2795° N, 72.5984° W: Placed by OpenAirDocs: center of Madison, CT, within about 6 miles (OpenAirDocs)
- Nearby events: https://openairdocs.org/map.md?lat=41.2795&lon=-72.5984&mi=10
- Phase of flight: [Landing](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-phases/550) (OpenAirDocs' grouping)
- Highest injury: No injuries
- Injuries: 4 uninjured
- Status: Completed
- Report: Approved by Office Director
- NTSB case key (mKey): 35654
- NTSB case page: https://web.ntsb.gov/investigations/?ntsbnumber=NYC85LA034
- NTSB report (PDF, downloads): https://data.ntsb.gov/carol-repgen/api/Aviation/ReportMain/GenerateNewestReport/35654/pdf
- Page: https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/NYC85LA034

## Sequence of events

In NTSB's coding before 2008 (https://www.ntsb.gov/GILS/Documents/codman.pdf).

- Hard landing, landing - flare/touchdown
  - aircraft performance,landing capability - deteriorated (contributing factor)
  - aircraft weight and balance - exceeded, pilot in command (contributing factor)
  - aircraft handling - reduced (cause)
  - flare - improper, pilot in command (cause)
- Nose gear collapsed, landing - roll
  - landing gear,nose gear assembly - overload

## Analysis

PLT STATED THAT AS HE LOWERED NOSE GEAR TO RUNWAY FOLLOWING INITIAL TOUCHDOWN ON MAINS, ACFT NOSE CONTINUED TO DROP. CONTROL INPUTS WERE NOT EFFECTIVE. INVESTIGATION REVEALED THE NOSE GEAR ASS'Y FAILED IN OVERLOAD. BASED ON FUEL REMAINING ON BOARD AND WITNESSES ESTIMATES OF OCCUPANT WEIGHTS, ACFT WAS APRX 250 POUNDS OVER MAX GROSS WEIGHT WITH AN AFT CENTER OF GRAVITY ON LANDING.

## Aircraft

- Registration: [N89929](https://openairdocs.org/deregistered/N89929-1989-05-10), registration cancelled 1989-05-10, S/N 17276017 (OpenAirDocs)
- Reported make and model: CESSNA 172P
- Registry model: [Cessna 172P](https://openairdocs.org/model/cessna-172p) (registry code 2072436) (OpenAirDocs)
- Category: Airplane
- Serial number: 17276017
- Airframe hours: 1034
- Engines: LYCOMING O-320-D2J 160 horsepower reciprocating
- Damage: Substantial damage
- Flight: Personal, Part 91
- Registered owner: Weiss, Myles E.
- Airworthiness certificate: Standard, Normal
- Departed: HPN, WHITE PLAINS, NY
- Flight plan: Unknown
- Airport: N04, Griswold, runway 24, 1,863 × 50 ft, asphalt

## Flight crew

As NTSB recorded them. NTSB leaves out names.

- Pilot; age 43; private; airplane ratings: single-engine land; medical: class 3, valid medical--w/ waivers/lim; seat: left; flight hours: 182 total, 11 in this make and model, 181 as pilot in command, 5 in the last 90 days, 1 in the last 24 hours

## Weather

- Conditions: Visual (VMC), Day
- Wind: 180° at 7 knots
- Visibility: 7 statute miles
- Lowest ceiling: none
- Temperature: 50 °F
- Altimeter: 30.00 inHg

## FAA reports on this event (1)

The FAA's own accident and incident reports, matched to the aircraft by N-number and date (OpenAirDocs).

- [Accident 19841125066679A](https://openairdocs.org/incident/19841125066679A), Nov 25, 1984: Cessna 172P, Madison, CT, Substantial damage. Bounced on landing and nose wheels strut collapsed. Observations indicated aircraft over maximum gross for landing.

From the NTSB's public API. Aircraft are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported serial number, make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model.

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