# NTSB NYC85LA217: Piper J-3, N35515, Goshen, NY, August 18, 1985

- Type: NTSB accident investigation
- Classification: Accident · No injuries · Limited investigation · Final report
- Date: August 18, 1985, 18:10 local (22:10 UTC)
- Place: Goshen, NY
- Coordinates: 41.399753, -74.32093 (estimated)
- Nearby events: https://openairdocs.org/map.md?lat=41.3998&lon=-74.3209&mi=10
- Phase of flight: [Enroute](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-phases/400) (OpenAirDocs' grouping)
- Highest injury: No injuries
- Injuries: 1 uninjured
- Status: Completed
- Report: Approved by Office Director
- NTSB case key (mKey): 35951
- NTSB case page: https://web.ntsb.gov/investigations/?ntsbnumber=NYC85LA217
- NTSB report (PDF, downloads): https://data.ntsb.gov/carol-repgen/api/Aviation/ReportMain/GenerateNewestReport/35951/pdf
- Page: https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/NYC85LA217

## Sequence of events

In NTSB's coding before 2008 (https://www.ntsb.gov/GILS/Documents/codman.pdf).

- Loss of engine power(total) - nonmechanical, cruise - normal
  - fluid,fuel - exhaustion (contributing factor)
  - preflight planning/preparation - inadequate, pilot in command (cause)
  - fuel consumption calculations - inaccurate, pilot in command (cause)
- Forced landing, descent - emergency
  - panic, pilot in command (contributing factor)
- On ground/water collision with object, landing - roll
  - object - tree(s) (contributing factor)
  - planned approach - poor, pilot in command (cause)
  - airspeed - misjudged, pilot in command (cause)
  - distance - misjudged, pilot in command (cause)

## Analysis

ACFT RAN OUT OF FUEL WHILE PLT WAS RETURNING TO ORANGE CO ARPT. PLT ALMOST FROZE ON CONTROLS WHEN ACFT ENGINE STOPPED RUNNING. PLT OVERSHOT EMERG LANDING FCD AND HIT TREES.

## Aircraft

- Registration: [N35515](https://openairdocs.org/aircraft/N35515), registered now, S/N 6419, built 1941 (OpenAirDocs)
- Reported make and model: PIPER J-3
- Registry model: [Piper J3C-65](https://openairdocs.org/model/piper-j3c-65) (registry code 7100510) (OpenAirDocs)
- Registry engine: [Continental A&C65 series](https://openairdocs.org/engine/continental-a-c65-series) (registry code 17003, reciprocating) (OpenAirDocs)
- Category: Airplane
- Serial number: 6149
- Airframe hours: 3194
- Engines: CONTINENTAL A-65 65 horsepower reciprocating
- Damage: Substantial damage
- Flight: Personal, Part 91
- Registered owner: Quade'S Flight School, Inc.
- Last inspection: 100 hour, July 18, 1985, 15 hours before
- Departed: MGJ, MONTGOMERY, NY

## Flight crew

As NTSB recorded them. NTSB leaves out names.

- Pilot; age 34; private; airplane ratings: single-engine land; medical: class 3, valid medical--w/ waivers/lim; seat: rear; flight hours: 174 total, 20 in this make and model, 125 as pilot in command, 20 in the last 90 days

## Weather

- Conditions: Visual (VMC), Day
- Wind: 180° at 6 knots
- Visibility: 12 statute miles
- Lowest ceiling: 5,000 ft broken
- Temperature: 70 °F, dew point -0 °F

From the NTSB's public API. Aircraft are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported serial number, make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model.

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