# NTSB NYC85LA221: Robinson R22, N90773, Ronkonkoma, NY, August 24, 1985

- Type: NTSB accident investigation
- Classification: Accident · No injuries · Limited investigation · Final report
- Date: August 24, 1985, 08:58 local (12:58 UTC)
- Place: Ronkonkoma, NY
- Coordinates: 40.799057, -73.11988 (estimated)
- Nearby events: https://openairdocs.org/map.md?lat=40.7991&lon=-73.1199&mi=10
- Phase of flight: [Landing](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-phases/550) (OpenAirDocs' grouping)
- Highest injury: No injuries
- Injuries: 2 uninjured
- Status: Completed
- Report: Approved by Office Director
- NTSB case key (mKey): 35954
- NTSB case page: https://web.ntsb.gov/investigations/?ntsbnumber=NYC85LA221
- NTSB report (PDF, downloads): https://data.ntsb.gov/carol-repgen/api/Aviation/ReportMain/GenerateNewestReport/35954/pdf
- Page: https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/NYC85LA221

## Sequence of events

In NTSB's coding before 2008 (https://www.ntsb.gov/GILS/Documents/codman.pdf).

- Roll over, landing - flare/touchdown
  - aircraft handling - poor, dual student (cause)
  - remedial action - inadequate, pilot in command(cfi) (contributing factor)
  - remedial action - delayed, pilot in command(cfi) (contributing factor)

## Analysis

DURING A LOCAL TRAINING FLIGHT THE STUDENT WAS ATTEMPTING A LIFT OFF AND BEGAN TO DRIFT TO THE LEFT. THE STUDENTS CONTROL INPUT WAS TO THE LEFT AGGRAVATING THE SITUATION. THE INSTRUCTOR TOOK CONTROL OF THE AIRCRAFT HOWEVER THE ROLL OVER HAD PROGRESSED TO AN UNCONTROLLABLE POSITION.

## Aircraft

- Registration: [N90773](https://openairdocs.org/deregistered/N90773-2012-11-19), registration cancelled 2012-11-19, S/N 0278, built 1982 (OpenAirDocs)
- Reported make and model: Robinson R22
- Registry model: [Robinson Helicopter R22](https://openairdocs.org/model/robinson-helicopter-r22) (registry code 7640102) (OpenAirDocs)
- Registry engine: [Amateur-built UNKNOWN ENG](https://openairdocs.org/engine/amateur-built-unknown-eng) (registry code 99999) (OpenAirDocs)
- Category: Helicopter
- Serial number: 0278
- Airframe hours: 1057
- Engines: LYCOMING O-320-B2C 160 horsepower reciprocating
- Damage: Substantial damage
- Flight: Instructional, Part 91
- Registered owner: Eastern Helicopters
- Airworthiness certificate: Standard, Normal
- Last inspection: 100 hour, August 1, 1984, 66 hours before
- Departed: ISP, ISLIP, NY
- Airport: ISL, Islip Macarthur

## Flight crew

As NTSB recorded them. NTSB leaves out names.

- Pilot; age 25; flight instructor, commercial; medical: class 2, valid medical--no waivers/lim.; seat: left; flight hours: 418 total, 382 in this make and model, 366 as pilot in command, 112 in the last 90 days, 40 in the last 30 days, 5 in the last 24 hours

## Weather

- Conditions: Visual (VMC), Day
- Wind: 210° at 7 knots
- Visibility: 15 statute miles
- Lowest ceiling: none
- Temperature: 75 °F
- Altimeter: 30.00 inHg

## FAA reports on this event (1)

The FAA's own accident and incident reports, matched to the aircraft by N-number and date (OpenAirDocs).

- [Accident 19850824045229A](https://openairdocs.org/incident/19850824045229A), Aug 24, 1985: Robsin R22, Islip, NY, Substantial damage. Rolled over during liftoff after student applied hard left cyclic. CFI attempted to correct but rollover in process

## Other investigations on N90773 (1)

From the NTSB's public API. Aircraft are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported serial number, make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model.

- [NTSB ATL83LA061](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/ATL83LA061), Dec 11, 1982: Robinson R-22 (N90773), Nashville, TN, substantial damage

From the NTSB's public API. Aircraft are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported serial number, make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model.

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