# NTSB NYC86LA039: Piper PA-34-200T, N3011P, Atlantic City, NJ, November 17, 1985

- Type: NTSB accident investigation
- Classification: Accident · No injuries · Limited investigation · Final report
- Date: November 17, 1985, 16:00 local (21:00 UTC)
- Place: Atlantic City, NJ
- Location: 39.3773° N, 74.4511° W: Placed by OpenAirDocs: center of Atlantic City, NJ, within about 6 miles (OpenAirDocs)
- Nearby events: https://openairdocs.org/map.md?lat=39.3773&lon=-74.4511&mi=10
- Phase of flight: [Landing](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-phases/550) (OpenAirDocs' grouping)
- Highest injury: No injuries
- Injuries: 2 uninjured
- Status: Completed
- Report: Approved by Office Director
- NTSB case key (mKey): 30268
- NTSB case page: https://web.ntsb.gov/investigations/?ntsbnumber=NYC86LA039
- NTSB report (PDF, downloads): https://data.ntsb.gov/carol-repgen/api/Aviation/ReportMain/GenerateNewestReport/30268/pdf
- Page: https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/NYC86LA039

## Sequence of events

In NTSB's coding before 2008 (https://www.ntsb.gov/GILS/Documents/codman.pdf).

- Hard landing, landing - flare/touchdown
  - reason for occurrence undetermined (cause)
- Nose gear collapsed, landing - flare/touchdown
  - landing gear,nose gear assembly - overload

## Analysis

THE ACFT EXPERIENCED A COLLAPSE OF THE NOSE GEAR DURING THE LANDING ROLL AFTER WHAT THE PLT SAID WAS A NORMAL LANDING. THE RIGHT MAIN GEAR WAS FURTHER DAMAGED DURING REMOVAL OF THE ACFT FROM THE RWY.

## Aircraft

- Registration: N3011P (not matched to a registry record)
- Reported make and model: PIPER PA-34-200T
- Category: Airplane
- Serial number: 34-7970328
- Airframe hours: 2238
- Engines: CONTINENTAL TSIO-360-E8 200 horsepower reciprocating
- Damage: Substantial damage
- Flight: Personal, Part 91
- Registered owner: Sakow Association
- Airworthiness certificate: Standard, Normal
- Last inspection: Annual, January 1, 1985
- Departed: TEEB, TETERBORO, NJ
- Destination: AIY, ATLANTIC CITY, NJ
- Airport: AIY, Bader Field, runway 29, 2,950 × 100 ft, asphalt

## Flight crew

As NTSB recorded them. NTSB leaves out names.

- Pilot; age 56; private; airplane ratings: single-engine land, multi-engine land; medical: class 3, valid medical--w/ waivers/lim; seat: left; flight hours: 4,270 total, 448 in this make and model, 4,098 as pilot in command, 46 in the last 90 days

## Weather

- Conditions: Visual (VMC), Day
- Visibility: 20 statute miles
- Lowest ceiling: none
- Temperature: -0 °F, dew point -0 °F

## FAA reports on this event (1)

The FAA's own accident and incident reports, matched to the aircraft by N-number and date (OpenAirDocs).

- [Accident 19851117057809A](https://openairdocs.org/incident/19851117057809A), Nov 17, 1985: Piper PA34200T, Atlantic City, NJ, Substantial damage. Nose landing gear collapsed during rollout. Mount assembly rivets were loose allowing drag link to move over center.

From the NTSB's public API. Aircraft are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported serial number, make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model.

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