# NTSB NYC86LA073: Piper PA-28-161, N8360W, West Dover, VT, January 17, 1986

- Type: NTSB accident investigation
- Classification: Accident · No injuries · Limited investigation · Final report
- Date: January 17, 1986, 18:30 local (22:30 UTC)
- Place: West Dover, VT
- Location: 42.9271° N, 72.8657° W: Placed by OpenAirDocs at DEERFIELD VALLEY RGNL (4V8), within about a mile (OpenAirDocs)
- Nearby events: https://openairdocs.org/map.md?lat=42.9271&lon=-72.8657&mi=10
- Phase of flight: [Landing](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-phases/550) (OpenAirDocs' grouping)
- Highest injury: No injuries
- Injuries: 2 uninjured
- Status: Completed
- Report: Approved by Office Director
- NTSB case key (mKey): 30298
- NTSB case page: https://web.ntsb.gov/investigations/?ntsbnumber=NYC86LA073
- NTSB report (PDF, downloads): https://data.ntsb.gov/carol-repgen/api/Aviation/ReportMain/GenerateNewestReport/30298/pdf
- Page: https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/NYC86LA073

## Sequence of events

In NTSB's coding before 2008 (https://www.ntsb.gov/GILS/Documents/codman.pdf).

- On ground/water collision with object, landing - roll
  - airport facilities,runway/landing area condition - icy (contributing factor)
  - airport facilities,runway/landing area condition - snowbank (contributing factor)
  - in-flight planning/decision - improper, pilot in command (cause)

## Analysis

DURING THE LANDING ROLL ON ICE COVERED RUNWAY THE AIRCRAFT RAN OFF THE DEPARTURE END OF THE RUNWAY AND COLLIDED WITH A SNOW BANK.

## Aircraft

- Registration: N8360W (not matched to a registry record)
- Reported make and model: PIPER PA-28-161
- Category: Airplane
- Serial number: 28-8116186
- Engines: LYCOMING O-320-D3G 160 horsepower reciprocating
- Damage: Substantial damage
- Flight: Instructional, Part 91
- Operator: Roger M. Madiou
- Registered owner: Trans Air, Inc.
- Airworthiness certificate: Standard, Normal
- Last inspection: Annual, August 2, 1985, 0 hours before
- Departed: FRG, FARMINGDALE, NY
- Flight plan: VFR
- Airport: 4V8, Mt. Snow, runway 19, 2,650 × 75 ft, asphalt

## Flight crew

As NTSB recorded them. NTSB leaves out names.

- Pilot; age 31; commercial, flight instructor; airplane ratings: multi-engine land, single-engine land; instrument ratings: airplane; medical: class 1, valid medical--no waivers/lim.; seat: left; flight hours: 1,563 total, 300 in this make and model, 1,417 as pilot in command, 90 in the last 90 days, 4 in the last 24 hours

## Weather

- Conditions: Visual (VMC), Night/dark
- Wind: 180° at 10 knots
- Visibility: 4 statute miles
- Lowest ceiling: 4,500 ft broken

## FAA reports on this event (1)

The FAA's own accident and incident reports, matched to the aircraft by N-number and date (OpenAirDocs).

- [Accident 19860117039239A](https://openairdocs.org/incident/19860117039239A), Jan 17, 1986: Piper PA28161, West Dover, VT, Substantial damage. Landed on ice covered runway. Slid off departure end into a snowbank. Fss did not inform of ice on weather briefing.

From the NTSB's public API. Aircraft are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported serial number, make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model.

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