# NTSB NYC87FA020: Cessna 182E, N2830Y, Fishers Island, NY, October 16, 1986 - Type: NTSB accident investigation - Classification: Accident · Fatal · Field investigation · Final report - Date: October 16, 1986, 15:20 local (19:20 UTC) - Place: Fishers Island, NY - Location: 41.2521° N, 72.0316° W: Placed by OpenAirDocs at ELIZABETH FLD (0B8), within about a mile (OpenAirDocs) - Nearby events: https://openairdocs.org/map.md?lat=41.2521&lon=-72.0316&mi=10 - Phase of flight: [Takeoff](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-phases/300) (OpenAirDocs' grouping) - Highest injury: Fatal - Injuries: 2 fatal, 2 serious - Status: Completed, report August 11, 1988 - Report: Approved by Office Director - NTSB case key (mKey): 30468 - NTSB case page: https://web.ntsb.gov/investigations/?ntsbnumber=NYC87FA020 - NTSB report (PDF, downloads): https://data.ntsb.gov/carol-repgen/api/Aviation/ReportMain/GenerateNewestReport/30468/pdf - Page: https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/NYC87FA020 ## Sequence of events In NTSB's coding before 2008 (https://www.ntsb.gov/GILS/Documents/codman.pdf). - On ground/water collision with object, takeoff - roll/run - vfr procedures - not followed, pilot of other aircraft (cause) - terrain condition - high vegetation - object - aircraft moving on ground - traffic advisory - not issued, pilot of other aircraft (contributing factor) - light condition - daylight - visual lookout - reduced, pilot in command (cause) - On ground/water collision with object, landing - roll - vfr procedures - not followed, pilot in command (cause) - light condition - daylight - object - aircraft moving on ground - visual lookout - inadequate, pilot in command (cause) - traffic advisory - not issued, pilot in command (contributing factor) - terrain condition - high vegetation ## Analysis (aircraft 2) A CESSNA 182 TAKING OFF ON RWY 25 COLLIDED WITH A PIPER PA-28-181 WHICH WAS LANDING ON RWY 12. THE COLLISION OCCURED IN THE INTERSECTION OF THE TWO RUNWAYS. THE TWO OCCUPANTS OF THE CESSNA WERE SERIOUSLY INJURED AND THE TWO OCCUPANTS OF THE PIPER WERE FATALLY INJURED IN THE ACCIDENT. BOTH AIRCRAFT WERE DESTROYED BY FIRE. NO RADIO TRANSMISSION WERE HEARD FROM THE PIPER PRIOR TO LANDING. THE CESSNA PILOT WAS HEARD TO HAVE TRANSMITTED HIS INTENTIONS TO TAKEOFF ON UNICOM FREQUENCY BUT WAS NOT OBSERVED TO MAKE A CLEARING 360 GROUND TURN PRIOR TO TAKEOFF. HIGH TERRAIN PREVENTS A PILOT ON THE GROUND AT RWY 25 FROM SEEING THE APPROACH END OF RWY 12. THE PASS'G ON THE PIPER, WHO WAS A PRIVATE PLT, WAS DOCUMENTED AS BEING REMOVED FROM THE LEFT FRONT SEAT OF THE ACFT. THE PIPER ALSO FLEW AN INCORRECT TRAFFIC PATTERN ACCORDING TO WITNESSES. ## Analysis (aircraft 1) A CESSNA 182 TAKING OFF ON RWY 25 COLLIDED WITH A PIPER PA-28-181 WHICH WAS LANDING ON RWY 12. THE COLLISION OCCURRED IN THE INTERSECTION OF THE TWO RUNWAYS. THE TWO OCCUPANTS OF THE CESSNA WERE SEROUSLY INJURED AND THE TWO OCCUPANTS OF THE PIPER WERE FATALLY INJURED IN THE ACCIDENT. BOTH AIRCRAFT WERE DESTROYED BY FIRE. NO RADIO TRANSMISSIONS WERE HEARD FROM THE PIPER PRIOR TO LANDING. THE CESSNA PILOT WAS HEARD TO HAVE TRANSMITTED HIS INTENTIONS TO TAKEOFF ON UNICOM FREQUENCY BUT WAS NOT OBSERVED TO MAKE A CLEARING 360 GROUND TURN PRIOR TO TAKEOFF. HIGH TERRAIN PREVENTS A PILOT ON THE GROUND AT RWY 25 FROM SEEING THE APPROACH END OF RWY 12. THE PASS'G ON THE PIPER, WHO WAS A PRIVATE PLT WAS DOCUMENTED AS BEING REMOVED FROM THE LEFT FRONT SEAT OF THE ACFT. THE PIPER ALSO FLEW AN INCORRECT TRAFFIC PATTERN ACCORDING TO WITNESSES. ## Aircraft 1 - Registration: [N2830Y](https://openairdocs.org/deregistered/N2830Y-2013-04-15), registration cancelled 2013-04-15, S/N 18253830, built 1962 (OpenAirDocs) - Reported make and model: CESSNA 182E - Registry model: [Cessna 182E](https://openairdocs.org/model/cessna-182e) (registry code 2072712) (OpenAirDocs) - Registry engine: [Continental O-470 series](https://openairdocs.org/engine/continental-o-470-series) (registry code 17026, reciprocating) (OpenAirDocs) - Category: Airplane - Serial number: 18253830 - Airframe hours: 3990 - Engines: CONTINENTAL O-470-R 230 horsepower reciprocating - Damage: Destroyed - Fire: On-Ground - Flight: Business, Part 91 - Operator: Richard Dupre, doing business as Top Line Pools,Inc. - Registered owner: Topline Pools Inc. - Airworthiness certificate: Standard, Normal - Last inspection: Annual, September 9, 1986, 23 hours before - Destination: R103, WESTERLY, RI - Airport: 0B8, Elizabeth Field, runway 25, 2,054 × 150 ft, asphalt ## Aircraft 2 - Registration: [N3962M](https://openairdocs.org/deregistered/N3962M-2012-11-14), registration cancelled 2012-11-14, S/N 28-7890344, built 1978 (OpenAirDocs) - Reported make and model: PIPER PA-28-181 - Registry model: [Piper PA-28-181](https://openairdocs.org/model/piper-pa-28-181) (registry code 7102807) (OpenAirDocs) - Registry engine: [Lycoming O&VO-360 series](https://openairdocs.org/engine/lycoming-o-vo-360-series) (registry code 41514, reciprocating) (OpenAirDocs) - Category: Airplane - Serial number: 28-7890344 - Airframe hours: 1472 - Engines: LYCOMING O-360-04M 180 horsepower reciprocating - Damage: Destroyed - Fire: On-Ground - Flight: Part 135 - Registered owner: Yankee Airways - Airworthiness certificate: Standard, Normal - Last inspection: 100 hour, September 9, 1986, 72 hours before - Departed: GON, GROTON, CT - Destination: OBS, FISHER ISLAND, NY - Airport: 0B8, Elizabeth Field, runway 12, 2,850 × 150 ft, asphalt ## Flight crew As NTSB recorded them. NTSB leaves out names. - Pilot, aircraft N2830Y; age 38; private; airplane ratings: single-engine land; medical: class 3, valid medical--no waivers/lim.; seat: left; flight hours: 81 total, 22 in this make and model, 35 as pilot in command, 34 in the last 90 days, 10 in the last 30 days, 1 in the last 24 hours - Pilot, aircraft N3962M; age 55; commercial; airplane ratings: multi-engine land; instrument ratings: airplane; medical: class 2, valid medical--w/ waivers/lim; seat: right; toxicology performed; flight hours: 25,000 total, 18,000 in this make and model, 24,600 as pilot in command, 214 in the last 90 days, 5 in the last 24 hours ## Weather - Conditions: Visual (VMC), Day - Wind: calm - Visibility: 20 statute miles - Lowest ceiling: none - Temperature: 61 °F, dew point -0 °F - Altimeter: 30.00 inHg - Observed at: OB8 ## FAA reports on this event (2) The FAA's own accident and incident reports, matched to the aircraft by N-number and date (OpenAirDocs). - [Accident 19861016049102A](https://openairdocs.org/incident/19861016049102A), Oct 16, 1986: Cessna 182E, Fisher Island, NY, Destroyed. During takeoff runway 25 struck 3962M landing runway 12 at intersection. Piper no radio call. Improper pattern. - [Accident 19861016049101A](https://openairdocs.org/incident/19861016049101A), Oct 16, 1986: Piper PA28181, Fisher Island, NY, Destroyed, 2 fatal. Land runway 12 collided with N2830Y at intersection runways that was departing on runway 25. NORDO. Improper patter From the NTSB's public API. Aircraft are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported serial number, make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model. --- OpenAirDocs.org is an independent research project of [Contrail Labs](https://contraillabs.com/). It is not affiliated with the FAA or the NTSB. Source documents are U.S. government works in the public domain.