# NTSB NYC88LA003: Cessna 172H, N1677F, Oneonta, NY, October 6, 1987

- Type: NTSB accident investigation
- Classification: Accident · No injuries · Limited investigation · Final report
- Date: October 6, 1987, 13:44 local (17:44 UTC)
- Place: Oneonta, NY
- Coordinates: 42.449745, -75.059013 (estimated)
- Nearby events: https://openairdocs.org/map.md?lat=42.4497&lon=-75.0590&mi=10
- Phase of flight: [Takeoff](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-phases/300) (OpenAirDocs' grouping)
- Highest injury: No injuries
- Injuries: 4 uninjured
- Status: Completed, report June 7, 1989
- Report: Approved by Office Director
- NTSB case key (mKey): 36028
- NTSB case page: https://web.ntsb.gov/investigations/?ntsbnumber=NYC88LA003
- NTSB report (PDF, downloads): https://data.ntsb.gov/carol-repgen/api/Aviation/ReportMain/GenerateNewestReport/36028/pdf
- Page: https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/NYC88LA003

## Sequence of events

In NTSB's coding before 2008 (https://www.ntsb.gov/GILS/Documents/codman.pdf).

- In flight collision with terrain/water, takeoff - aborted
  - weather condition - unfavorable wind (contributing factor)
  - weather condition - crosswind (contributing factor)
  - weather condition - gusts (contributing factor)
  - aborted takeoff
  - compensation for wind conditions - inadequate, pilot in command (cause)
  - airspeed - inadequate, pilot in command (cause)
  - aircraft control - improper, pilot in command (cause)

## Analysis

THE PLT RPRTD HE STARTED TO DEPART FROM RWY 13 WITH THE WIND FROM THE SOUTH AT 15 GUSTING 25 KTS. HE STATED THE ACFT WAS NOT CLIMBING AS EXPECTED SO HE ELECTED TO LAND ON THE REMAINING RWY. HE STATED THE WIND GUSTS WERE STRONG FROM THE RIGHT REAR. HE SAID HE THROTTLED BACK SOMEWHAT AFTER LOWERING THE NOSE & PROCEEDED TO GLIDE BACK TO THE SURFACE, BUT THE ACFT DRIFTED TO THE LEFT OF THE RWY. SUBSEQUENTLY, IT STRUCK THE GROUND RIGHT WING 1ST, TURNING THE ACFT TO THE RIGHT. THE RIGHT MAIN GEAR TOUCHED DOWN NEXT, FOLLOWED BY THE LEFT MAIN & NOSE GEAR. THE ACFT THEN SKIDDED ABOUT 20' TO A STOP WITH DAMAGE TO THE WING TIPS, ENG MOUNTS, PROP, FUSELAGE, HORIZONTAL STABILIZER & GEAR.

## Aircraft

- Registration: [N1677F](https://openairdocs.org/deregistered/N1677F-1990-07-26), registration cancelled 1990-07-26, S/N 17255072 (OpenAirDocs)
- Reported make and model: CESSNA 172H
- Registry model: [Cessna 172H](https://openairdocs.org/model/cessna-172h) (registry code 2072424) (OpenAirDocs)
- Category: Airplane
- Serial number: 17255072
- Airframe hours: 3047
- Engines: CONTINENTAL O-300-D 145 horsepower reciprocating
- Damage: Destroyed
- Flight: Personal, Part 91
- Registered owner: Edward J. Welch, Jr.
- Airworthiness certificate: Standard, Normal
- Last inspection: Annual, August 22, 1987, 50 hours before
- Airport: 41N, F&F Airpark, runway 13, 3,400 × 125 ft, grass/turf

## Flight crew

As NTSB recorded them. NTSB leaves out names.

- Pilot; age 59; commercial; airplane ratings: multi-engine land, single-engine land; medical: class 2, valid medical--w/ waivers/lim; seat: left; flight hours: 1,823 total, 1,700 in this make and model, 1,585 as pilot in command, 111 in the last 90 days, 2 in the last 24 hours

## Weather

- Conditions: Visual (VMC), Day
- Wind: 180° at 15 knots, gusting 25
- Lowest ceiling: none
- Temperature: 61 °F

## FAA reports on this event (1)

The FAA's own accident and incident reports, matched to the aircraft by N-number and date (OpenAirDocs).

- [Accident 19871006058819A](https://openairdocs.org/incident/19871006058819A), Oct 6, 1987: Cessna 172H, Oneonta, NY, Destroyed. Lifted off too slow for crosswind and turbulence. Aborted then stalled hit wing and cartwheeled. Blamed windshear.

From the NTSB's public API. Aircraft are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported serial number, make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model.

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