# NTSB NYC88LA245: Piper PA-28-151, N43610, Carlton Center, NY, September 29, 1988

- Type: NTSB accident investigation
- Classification: Accident · No injuries · Limited investigation · Final report
- Date: September 29, 1988, 08:30 local (12:30 UTC)
- Place: Carlton Center, NY
- Coordinates: 43.24039, -78.180473 (estimated)
- Nearby events: https://openairdocs.org/map.md?lat=43.2404&lon=-78.1805&mi=10
- Phase of flight: [Landing](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-phases/550) (OpenAirDocs' grouping)
- Highest injury: No injuries
- Injuries: 2 uninjured
- Status: Completed, report January 24, 1990
- Report: Approved by Office Director
- NTSB case key (mKey): 36235
- NTSB case page: https://web.ntsb.gov/investigations/?ntsbnumber=NYC88LA245
- NTSB report (PDF, downloads): https://data.ntsb.gov/carol-repgen/api/Aviation/ReportMain/GenerateNewestReport/36235/pdf
- Page: https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/NYC88LA245

## Sequence of events

In NTSB's coding before 2008 (https://www.ntsb.gov/GILS/Documents/codman.pdf).

- Overrun, landing - roll
  - planned approach - improper, pilot in command (cause)
  - weather condition - tailwind (contributing factor)
  - airspeed - excessive, pilot in command (cause)
  - terrain condition - wet (contributing factor)
- On ground/water collision with object, landing - roll
  - object - wall/barricade

## Analysis

PLT STATED HE WAS LANDING TO THE WEST AND TOUCHED DOWN ABOUT HALF WAY DOWN A 2,000 FT GRASS STRIP. THE PLT ALSO SAID THE GRASS WAS WET AND THE WHEEL BRAKING WAS INEFFECTIVE. THE PLT ELECTED TO KEEP THE AIRPLANE ON THE GROUND DUE TO OBSTACLES AT THE END OF THE STRIP. THE AIRPLANE CONTINUED BEYOND THE END OF THE STRIP AND STRUCK A RAILROAD TIE BARRIER. THE PLT REPORTED THE WIND TO HAVE BEEN FROM THE EAST AT 3 MPH.

## Aircraft

- Registration: [N43610](https://openairdocs.org/deregistered/N43610-2013-08-14), registration cancelled 2013-08-14, S/N 28-7415537, built 1974 (OpenAirDocs)
- Reported make and model: PIPER PA-28-151
- Registry model: [Piper PA-28-151](https://openairdocs.org/model/piper-pa-28-151) (registry code 7102805) (OpenAirDocs)
- Registry engine: [Lycoming 0-320 series](https://openairdocs.org/engine/lycoming-0-320-series) (registry code 41508, reciprocating) (OpenAirDocs)
- Category: Airplane
- Serial number: 287415537
- Airframe hours: 3510
- Engines: LYCOMING O-320-E2D 150 horsepower reciprocating
- Damage: Substantial damage
- Flight: Personal, Part 91
- Operator: Johnson Ronaldo
- Registered owner: John M Ronaldo
- Airworthiness certificate: Standard, Normal
- Last inspection: Annual, August 16, 1988, 15 hours before
- Departed: N53, STROUDSBURG, PA
- Destination: NONE, CARLTON CENTER, NY
- Airport: Private, runway 27, 2,000 ×  ft, grass/turf

## Flight crew

As NTSB recorded them. NTSB leaves out names.

- Pilot; age 38; commercial, flight instructor; airplane ratings: single-engine land, multi-engine land; instrument ratings: airplane; medical: class 2, valid medical--w/ waivers/lim; seat: left; flight hours: 2,600 total, 1,200 in this make and model, 2,500 as pilot in command, 260 in the last 90 days, 120 in the last 30 days, 8 in the last 24 hours

## Weather

- Conditions: Visual (VMC), Day
- Wind: 90° at 3 knots
- Visibility: 20 statute miles
- Lowest ceiling: none
- Temperature: 50 °F

## FAA reports on this event (1)

The FAA's own accident and incident reports, matched to the aircraft by N-number and date (OpenAirDocs).

- [Accident 19880929047049A](https://openairdocs.org/incident/19880929047049A), Sep 29, 1988: Piper PA28151, Carlton Center, NY, Substantial damage. Landed half way down a short downhill wet grass strip. Unable to stop, hit railroad tie barrier off end of strip.

From the NTSB's public API. Aircraft are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported serial number, make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model.

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