# NTSB NYC90LA128: Piper PA-28-140, N1323T, Marcellus, NY, June 12, 1990

- Type: NTSB accident investigation
- Classification: Accident · No injuries · Limited investigation · Final report
- Date: June 11, 1990, 20:15 local (Jun 12, 1990, 00:15 UTC)
- Place: Marcellus, NY
- Coordinates: 42.980949, -76.33953 (estimated)
- Nearby events: https://openairdocs.org/map.md?lat=42.9809&lon=-76.3395&mi=10
- Phase of flight: [Initial climb](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-phases/350) (OpenAirDocs' grouping)
- Highest injury: No injuries
- Injuries: 2 uninjured
- Status: Completed, report December 14, 1992
- Report: Approved by Office Director
- NTSB case key (mKey): 36661
- NTSB case page: https://web.ntsb.gov/investigations/?ntsbnumber=NYC90LA128
- NTSB report (PDF, downloads): https://data.ntsb.gov/carol-repgen/api/Aviation/ReportMain/GenerateNewestReport/36661/pdf
- Page: https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/NYC90LA128

## Probable cause

FAILURE OF THE PILOT-IN-COMMAND TO MAINTAIN AIRSPEED AFTER TAKEOFF. A CONTRIBUTING FACTOR WAS THE THE UPSLOPE GRADIENT OF THE RUNWAY.

## Sequence of events

In NTSB's coding before 2008 (https://www.ntsb.gov/GILS/Documents/codman.pdf).

- Loss of control - in flight, takeoff - initial climb
  - airport facilities,runway/landing area condition - uphill (contributing factor)
  - airspeed - not maintained, pilot in command(cfi) (cause)
  - stall/mush - inadvertent, pilot in command(cfi)
- In flight collision with object, takeoff - initial climb
  - object - tree(s)

## Analysis

THE AIRPLANE TOOK OFF FROM A GRASS STRIP WITH AN UPHILL SLOPE. AFTER GETTING AIRBORNE, THE AIRPLANE SETTLED INTO TREES OFF THE DEPARTURE END OF THE RUNWAY. THE AIRPLANE HAD JUST BEEN FUELED TO 36 GALLONS, AND THE TWO PILOTS WEIGHED APRX 180 LBS EACH.

## Aircraft

- Registration: [N1323T](https://openairdocs.org/deregistered/N1323T-2017-10-28), registration cancelled 2017-10-28, S/N 28-7225462, built 1972 (OpenAirDocs)
- Reported make and model: PIPER PA-28-140
- Registry model: [Piper PA-28-140](https://openairdocs.org/model/piper-pa-28-140) (registry code 7102802) (OpenAirDocs)
- Registry engine: [Lycoming 0-320 series](https://openairdocs.org/engine/lycoming-0-320-series) (registry code 41508, reciprocating) (OpenAirDocs)
- Category: Airplane
- Serial number: 28-7225462
- Airframe hours: 3215
- Engines: Textron Lyc. O-320-E3D 150 horsepower reciprocating
- Damage: Substantial damage
- Flight: Instructional, Part 91
- Operator: Robert P. Scianna
- Registered owner: John Whitford
- Airworthiness certificate: Standard, Normal
- Last inspection: 100 hour, June 1, 1990, 20 hours before
- Airport: NK71, Marcellus, runway 33, 2,200 × 50 ft, grass/turf

## Flight crew

As NTSB recorded them. NTSB leaves out names.

- Pilot; age 47; commercial, flight instructor; airplane ratings: single-engine land, multi-engine land; instrument ratings: airplane; medical: class 1, valid medical--w/ waivers/lim; seat: right; flight hours: 2,800 total, 500 in this make and model, 2,650 as pilot in command, 70 in the last 90 days, 30 in the last 30 days, 2 in the last 24 hours

## Weather

- Conditions: Visual (VMC), Dusk
- Wind: calm
- Visibility: 30 statute miles
- Lowest ceiling: none
- Temperature: 70 °F

## FAA reports on this event (1)

The FAA's own accident and incident reports, matched to the aircraft by N-number and date (OpenAirDocs).

- [Accident 19900611022579A](https://openairdocs.org/incident/19900611022579A), Jun 11, 1990: Piper PA28140, Marcellus, NY, Substantial damage. Settled into trees on uphill slight downwind takeoff from sod runway. Was near gross weight.

## Other investigations on N1323T (2)

From the NTSB's public API. Aircraft are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported serial number, make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model.

- [NTSB NYC84LA025](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/NYC84LA025), Nov 9, 1983: Piper PA-28-140 (N1323T), Syracuse, NY, substantial damage
- [NTSB NYC74DFS24](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/NYC74DFS24), Feb 10, 1974: Piper PA-28 (N1323T), Penn Yan, NY, substantial damage

From the NTSB's public API. Aircraft are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported serial number, make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model.

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