# NTSB NYC96LA032: Piper PA-28R-200, N5030S, Lake Placid, NY, November 25, 1995 - Type: NTSB accident investigation - Classification: Accident · No injuries · Limited investigation · Final report - Date: November 25, 1995, 10:30 local (15:30 UTC) - Place: Lake Placid, NY - Coordinates: 44.28033, -73.98069 (estimated) - Nearby events: https://openairdocs.org/map.md?lat=44.2803&lon=-73.9807&mi=10 - Phase of flight: [Landing](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-phases/550) (OpenAirDocs' grouping) - Highest injury: No injuries - Injuries: 2 uninjured - Status: Completed, report February 27, 1996 - Report: Approved by Office Director - NTSB case key (mKey): 39128 - NTSB case page: https://web.ntsb.gov/investigations/?ntsbnumber=NYC96LA032 - NTSB report (PDF, downloads): https://data.ntsb.gov/carol-repgen/api/Aviation/ReportMain/GenerateNewestReport/39128/pdf - Page: https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/NYC96LA032 ## Probable cause the pilot's failure to maintain directional control during the landing, and subsequently the airplane veered off the runway. ## Sequence of events In NTSB's coding before 2008 (https://www.ntsb.gov/GILS/Documents/codman.pdf). - Loss of control - on ground/water, landing - airport facilities,runway/landing area condition - snow covered - directional control - not maintained, pilot in command (cause) - On ground/water encounter with terrain/water, landing - roll - terrain condition - snow covered ## Analysis The pilot was landing on runway 32 which was snow covered. During the landing roll, the airplane veered off the runway. The pilot also reported that he had 'landed on snow on shorter runways and was not concerned with landing, except that I was a little fast. Possible to have come in slower.' The pilot stated that the winds were light and variable and there were no mechancial malfunctions. ## Factual narrative On November 25, 1995, about 1030 eastern standard time, a Piper PA-28R-200, N5030S, was substantially damaged when it veered off the side of the runway, during the landing roll, at the Lake Placid Airport, Lake Placid, New York. The commercial pilot and passenger were not injured. Visual meteorological conditions prevailed, for the personal flight that departed from Easton, Pennsylvania, about 0845. There was no flight plan for the flight conducted under 14 CFR Part 91. In the NTSB form 6120.1/2, the pilot stated: ...Received airport advisories from Lake Placid, winds light and variable favoring runway 32. Runway was snow covered after the 1250 foot displaced threshold....[I was] slightly high on final, slipped to lose altitude, landed slightly fast, but with no undue concern as there was approximately 3000 feet of remaining runway. On rollout, aircraft started turn to the right. Was unable to stop the turn and [the aircraft] went off the runway. Left main gear was then collapsed, wing went down....Happened in the first and fastest part of roll out. probably a combination of wind, perhaps an uneven spot on the plowed runway and a slightly fast landing.... The pilot further reported that the winds were light and variable and that there were no mechanical malfunctions with the airplane. Additionally, according to the Airport Facility Directory, runway 32 was 4200 feet long and 50 feet wide. ## Aircraft - Registration: [N5030S](https://openairdocs.org/deregistered/N5030S-1997-12-20), registration cancelled 1997-12-20, S/N 28R35776 (OpenAirDocs) - Reported make and model: PIPER PA-28R-200 - Registry model: [Piper PA-28R-200](https://openairdocs.org/model/piper-pa-28r-200) (registry code 7102811) (OpenAirDocs) - Category: Airplane - Serial number: 28R35776 - Airframe hours: 3616 - Engines: LYCOMING IO-360-C1C 200 horsepower reciprocating - Damage: Substantial damage - Flight: Personal, Part 91 - Registered owner: Dorothy Regan - Airworthiness certificate: Standard, Normal - Last inspection: Annual, February 24, 1994, 145 hours before - Departed: N43, EASTON, PA - Destination: LKP, NY - Airport: LDP, Lake Placid, runway 32, 4,200 × 50 ft, asphalt ## Flight crew As NTSB recorded them. NTSB leaves out names. - Pilot; age 63; commercial, flight instructor; airplane ratings: single-engine land; instrument ratings: airplane; medical: class 2, valid medical--no waivers/lim.; seat: left; flight hours: 1,230 total, 937 in this make and model, 946 as pilot in command, 78 in the last 90 days, 20 in the last 30 days ## Weather - Conditions: Visual (VMC), Day - Visibility: 30 statute miles - Lowest ceiling: none - Temperature: 30 °F, dew point 18 °F - Altimeter: 30.00 inHg ## FAA reports on this event (1) The FAA's own accident and incident reports, matched to the aircraft by N-number and date (OpenAirDocs). - [Accident 19951125038939A](https://openairdocs.org/incident/19951125038939A), Nov 25, 1995: Piper PA28R200, Lake Placid, NY, Substantial damage. Veered off runway on landing roll. Nosed over in plowed field. Too fast and wind gusts were factors. ## Other investigations on N5030S (1) From the NTSB's public API. Aircraft are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported serial number, make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model. - [NTSB NYC96LA095](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/NYC96LA095), May 1, 1996: Piper PA-28-R200 (N5030S), Forks Township, PA, substantial damage. Probable cause: the flight instructor's misjudgment of distance and altitude, and delay in performing remedial action. From the NTSB's public API. Aircraft are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported serial number, make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model. --- OpenAirDocs.org is an independent research project of [Contrail Labs](https://contraillabs.com/). It is not affiliated with the FAA or the NTSB. Source documents are U.S. government works in the public domain.