# NTSB SEA05CA186: Piper PA-22 (20), N8276C, McCall, ID, September 5, 2005

- Type: NTSB accident investigation
- Classification: Accident · No injuries · Data collection · Final report
- Date: September 5, 2005, 17:00 local (23:00 UTC)
- Place: McCall, ID
- Coordinates: 44.88972, -116.101387
- Nearby events: https://openairdocs.org/map.md?lat=44.8897&lon=-116.1014&mi=10
- Phase of flight: [Landing](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-phases/550) (OpenAirDocs' grouping)
- Highest injury: No injuries
- Injuries: 2 uninjured
- Status: Completed, report December 20, 2005
- Report: Approved by Office Director
- NTSB case key (mKey): 62395
- NTSB case page: https://web.ntsb.gov/investigations/?ntsbnumber=SEA05CA186
- NTSB report (PDF, downloads): https://data.ntsb.gov/carol-repgen/api/Aviation/ReportMain/GenerateNewestReport/62395/pdf
- Page: https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/SEA05CA186

## Probable cause

The pilot's failure to maintain airspeed during takeoff.  A wire fence was a factor in the accident.

## Sequence of events

In NTSB's coding before 2008 (https://www.ntsb.gov/GILS/Documents/codman.pdf).

- On ground/water collision with object, emergency landing
  - airspeed - not maintained, pilot in command (cause)
  - object - fence (contributing factor)

## Analysis

In a written statement the pilot reported that the airplane's takeoff acceleration was normal and that immediately after takeoff he lowered the airplane's nose and accelerated to best angle of climb while in ground effect.  The pilot reported that after reaching best angle he began to climb; however, the airplane's airspeed rapidly decayed.  The pilot reported that he lowered the airplane's nose, in response to the loss of airspeed, and turned the aircraft towards the crosswind and lowering terrain.  After turning toward lowering terrain the pilot reported that he "landed on ground but hit wire fence."  After colliding with the fence, the airplane nosed over resulting in substantial damage.  The 1650 METAR observation at McCall, reported weather conditions, in part, as: winds from 260 degrees at 7 knots; visibility 10 statute miles; temperature 22 degrees Celsius; barometric pressure (altimeter) 30.14 inches.  The McCall Airport is located in mountainous terrain.  The airport elevation is 5,021 feet above mean sea level.  The single hard surface runway (16/34) is 6,107 feet long and 75 feet wide.

## Factual narrative

On September 5, 2005, about 1700 mountain daylight time, a tail wheel equipped Piper PA-22 (20), N8276C, sustained substantial damage after colliding with a fence shortly after takeoff from the McCall Municipal Airport, McCall, Idaho.  The airplane is registered to the pilot, and was being operated as a visual flight rules (VFR) cross-county flight under the provisions of 14 CFR Part 91, when the accident occurred.  The commercial pilot and passenger were not injured.  Visual meteorological conditions prevailed and no flight plan was filed for the flight.  The planned destination was Boise, Idaho.

In a written statement, dated September 6, the pilot reported that the airplane's takeoff acceleration was normal and that immediately after takeoff he lowered the airplane's nose and accelerated to best angle of climb while in ground effect.  The pilot reported that after reaching best angle he began to climb, however the airplane's airspeed rapidly decayed.  The pilot reported that he lowered the airplane's nose, in response to the loss of airspeed, and turned the aircraft towards the crosswind and lowering terrain.  After turning toward lowering terrain the pilot reported that he "landed on ground but hit wire fence."  After colliding with the fence, the airplane nosed over resulting in substantial damage.

The 1650 METAR observation at McCall, reported weather conditions, in part, as: winds from 260 degrees at 7 knots; visibility 10 statute miles; temperature 22 degrees Celsius; barometric pressure (altimeter) 30.14 inches.

The pilot reported the following pre takeoff weights:

Pilot:                                  180 pounds

Passenger:                      140 pounds

Dog:                                    80 pounds

Baggage:                           40 pounds

Fuel:                                 108 pounds (approximately)

The McCall Airport is located in mountainous terrain.  The airport elevation is 5,021 feet above mean sea level.  The single hard surface runway (16/34) is 6,107 feet long and 75 feet wide.

## Aircraft

- Registration: [N8276C](https://openairdocs.org/deregistered/N8276C-2008-09-03), registration cancelled 2008-09-03, S/N 22-2352, built 1954 (OpenAirDocs)
- Reported make and model: Piper PA-22 (20)
- Registry model: [Piper PA-22](https://openairdocs.org/model/piper-pa-22) (registry code 7102202) (OpenAirDocs)
- Registry engine: [Lycoming 0-290 series](https://openairdocs.org/engine/lycoming-0-290-series) (registry code 41506, 4 cycle) (OpenAirDocs)
- Category: Airplane
- Serial number: 22-2352
- Engines: Lycoming O-290 reciprocating
- Damage: Substantial damage
- Flight: Personal, Part 91
- Operator: Michael S. Weiss
- Registered owner: Michael S. Weiss
- Airworthiness certificate: Standard, Normal
- Departed: MYL, McCall, ID
- Destination: BOI, BOISE, ID
- Airport: MYL, Mc Call, runway 16

## Flight crew

As NTSB recorded them. NTSB leaves out names.

- Pilot; age 55; commercial; airplane ratings: single-engine land, multi-engine land; instrument ratings: airplane; medical: class 3; flight hours: 2,226 total, 180 in this make and model, 48 in the last 90 days, 20 in the last 30 days

## Weather

- Conditions: Visual (VMC), Day

## FAA reports on this event (1)

The FAA's own accident and incident reports, matched to the aircraft by N-number and date (OpenAirDocs).

- [Accident 20050905020709A](https://openairdocs.org/incident/20050905020709A), Sep 5, 2005: Piper PA22, Mc Call, ID, Substantial damage. (-23) Pilot stated that the power and acceleration were normal during the takeoff run, however, the aircraft would not climb very well. Pilot stated that he…

## Other investigations on N8276C (3)

From the NTSB's public API. Aircraft are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported serial number, make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model.

- [NTSB SEA95LA075](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/SEA95LA075), Apr 2, 1995: Piper PA-22 (N8276C), Klamath Falls, OR, substantial damage. Probable cause: THE PILOT-IN-COMMAND'S FAILURE TO MAINTAIN DIRECTIONAL CONTROL DURING TAKEOFF, RESULTING IN A GROUND LOOP.
- [NTSB SEA79DYM13](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/SEA79DYM13), Jan 28, 1979: Piper PA-22 (N8276C), Dufur, OR, substantial damage
- [NTSB SEA67D0279](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/SEA67D0279), Feb 21, 1967: Piper PA-22 (N8276C), Silver Lake, OR, substantial damage

From the NTSB's public API. Aircraft are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported serial number, make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model.

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