# NTSB SEA05LA194: Cessna 182P, N58717, Yellow Pine, ID, September 15, 2005

- Type: NTSB accident investigation
- Classification: Accident · No injuries · Limited investigation · Final report
- Date: September 15, 2005, 15:45 local (21:45 UTC)
- Place: Yellow Pine, ID
- Coordinates: 44.906944, -115.486946
- Nearby events: https://openairdocs.org/map.md?lat=44.9069&lon=-115.4869&mi=10
- Phase of flight: [Initial climb](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-phases/350) (OpenAirDocs' grouping)
- Highest injury: No injuries
- Injuries: 4 uninjured
- Status: Completed, report March 28, 2006
- Report: Approved by Office Director
- Parties: Federal Aviation Administration
- NTSB case key (mKey): 62483
- NTSB case page: https://web.ntsb.gov/investigations/?ntsbnumber=SEA05LA194
- NTSB report (PDF, downloads): https://data.ntsb.gov/carol-repgen/api/Aviation/ReportMain/GenerateNewestReport/62483/pdf
- Page: https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/SEA05LA194

## Probable cause

The pilot's improper preflight planning/preparation during takeoff.  A factor was the windshear.

## Sequence of events

In NTSB's coding before 2008 (https://www.ntsb.gov/GILS/Documents/codman.pdf).

- In flight encounter with weather, takeoff - initial climb
  - preflight planning/preparation - improper, pilot in command (cause)
  - weather condition - windshear (contributing factor)
- In flight collision with terrain/water, takeoff - aborted
  - terrain condition - ground

## Analysis

After getting confirmation from the pilot who took off before him that the wind wasn't that bad, the pilot departed on Runway 17.  During the initial climbout the pilot encountered a windshear condition, as the headwind changed to a 20 knot tailwind.  Approaching rising terrain and at an altitude of approximately 60 to 80 feet above the ground and not climbing, the pilot elected to abort the takeoff.  After retarding the throttle to idle the airplane subsequently impacted the ground "very hard", causing both wheels to separate from both main landing gear, the nose gear folding back into the firewall, and the top two engine mounts separating.  There was no postcrash fire and all occupants exited the airplane without injury.  The pilot indicated there were no anomalies with the airplane prior to or during the departure, and that the wind at the time of departure was from 170 degree at 10 knots, gusting to 30 knots.  The pilot stated that he felt he should have delayed his takeoff for 1 to 2 hours, as cooler temperatures and calmer winds might have prevailed.  It was also noted that although the pilot had recently operated into and out of the airstrip, this was the first time he had attempted taking off on Runway 17.  The Airport/Facility Directory cautions against taking off on Runway 17, paying particular attention to density altitude, turbulence, and mountain flying proficiency.

## Factual narrative

On September 15, 2005, approximately 1545 mountain daylight time, a Cessna 182P single-engine airplane, N58717, sustained substantial damage following an aborted takeoff  from the Johnson Creek Airport, near Yellow Pine, Idaho.  The certificated private pilot and his three passengers were not injured.  Visual meteorological conditions prevailed for the 14 CFR Part 91 personal cross-country flight, and a flight plan was not filed.  The flight was originating at the time of the accident, with its destination being Idaho Falls, Idaho.

In a telephone conversation with the NTSB investigator-in-charge, and according to the Pilot/Operator Aircraft Accident Report (NTSB Form 6120.1/2), the pilot reported that after taxiing to Runway 17 and completing an engine run up, he contacted the pilot of the airplane who had just departed to the south.  The departing pilot radioed, "...you should be able to make it.  It wasn't too bad."  The pilot stated that after lifting off and during the climbout to the south he encountered a windshear condition, a headwind that changed to a 20 knot tailwind at treetop level.  The pilot further stated that at an altitude of approximately 60 to 80 feet above ground level, and with rising terrain approaching, he decided to abort the takeoff abruptly by retarding the throttle to the idle position.  The aircraft impacted the ground "very hard", causing both main wheels to separate from the landing gear, the nose gear folding back into the firewall, and the engine separating from the top two engine mounts.  There was no postcrash fire and all occupants exited the airplane without injury.  The pilot reported no anomalies existed with the airplane or engine prior to the takeoff, and that prior to departure the wind was from 170 degrees at 10 knots, gusting to 30 knots.  The pilot stated that he should have waited 1 to 2 hours before taking off, for cooler temperatures and calmer winds.  The pilot further stated that he had operated into and out of the airstrip at least 3 times in the two weeks prior to the accident, however, had never previously taken off on Runway 17,

At 1550, the weather reporting facility at the McCall Municipal Airport, McCall, Idaho, located approximately 30 nautical miles west of the accident site, reported wind 190 degrees at 14 knots, visibility 10 statute miles, sky clear, temperature 21 degrees C, dew point -01 degree C, and an altimeter reading of 30.01 inches of Mercury.  The density altitude at the time of takeoff was calculated to be 6,740 feet.

Under the "REMARKS" section for the Johnson Creek Airport, located in the United States Department of Transportation's Airport/Facility Directory, it is noted: "Recommend land Runway 17, takeoff Runway 35 when wind conditions allow.  Runway 17-35 plus 60' trees 100' each side of centerline.  Additional 250' available for takeoff on Runway 35 end.  Special considerations should be given to density altitude, turbulence, and mountain flying proficiency.

## Aircraft

- Registration: [N58717](https://openairdocs.org/deregistered/N58717-2007-02-15), registration cancelled 2007-02-15, S/N 18262255, built 1973 (OpenAirDocs)
- Reported make and model: Cessna 182P
- Registry model: [Cessna 182P](https://openairdocs.org/model/cessna-182p) (registry code 2075816) (OpenAirDocs)
- Registry engine: [Continental O-470 series](https://openairdocs.org/engine/continental-o-470-series) (registry code 17026, reciprocating) (OpenAirDocs)
- Category: Airplane
- Serial number: 18262255
- Airframe hours: 6866
- Engines: Continental O-470 230 horsepower reciprocating
- Damage: Substantial damage
- Flight: Personal, Part 91
- Airworthiness certificate: Standard, Normal
- Last inspection: Annual, August 1, 2005, 7.5 hours before
- Departed: 3U2, Yellow Pine, ID
- Destination: IDA, Idaho Falls, ID
- Airport: 3U2, Johnson Creek, runway 17, 3,400 × 150 ft, grass/turf

## Flight crew

As NTSB recorded them. NTSB leaves out names.

- Pilot; age 47; injuries: none; private; airplane ratings: single-engine land; medical: class 3, without waivers/limitations; seat: left; flight hours: 494 total, 450 in this make and model, 494 as pilot in command, 25 in the last 90 days, 13 in the last 30 days, 2 in the last 24 hours

## Weather

- Conditions: Visual (VMC), Day
- Wind: 170° at 10 knots, gusting 30
- Visibility: 10 statute miles
- Lowest ceiling: none
- Temperature: 68 °F

## FAA reports on this event (1)

The FAA's own accident and incident reports, matched to the aircraft by N-number and date (OpenAirDocs).

- [Accident 20050915021189A](https://openairdocs.org/incident/20050915021189A), Sep 15, 2005: Cessna 182P, Yellow Pine, ID, Substantial damage. (-23) Pilot attempted to take off to the south at 15:45 LCL MDT. Wind was variable and gusty at the time of departure. Eyewitnesses saw the aircraft become…

From the NTSB's public API. Aircraft are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported serial number, make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model.

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