# NTSB SEA85LA144: Luscombe 8A, N25231, Orofino, ID, June 23, 1985

- Type: NTSB accident investigation
- Classification: Accident · Minor injuries · Limited investigation · Final report
- Date: June 23, 1985, 10:00 local (16:00 UTC)
- Place: Orofino, ID
- Coordinates: 46.480663, -116.120925 (estimated)
- Nearby events: https://openairdocs.org/map.md?lat=46.4807&lon=-116.1209&mi=10
- Phase of flight: [Approach](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-phases/500) (OpenAirDocs' grouping)
- Highest injury: Minor injuries
- Injuries: 2 minor
- Status: Completed
- Report: Approved by Office Director
- NTSB case key (mKey): 40181
- NTSB case page: https://web.ntsb.gov/investigations/?ntsbnumber=SEA85LA144
- NTSB report (PDF, downloads): https://data.ntsb.gov/carol-repgen/api/Aviation/ReportMain/GenerateNewestReport/40181/pdf
- Page: https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/SEA85LA144

## Sequence of events

In NTSB's coding before 2008 (https://www.ntsb.gov/GILS/Documents/codman.pdf).

- Loss of control - in flight, approach - vfr pattern - final approach
  - weather condition - high wind (contributing factor)
  - compensation for wind conditions - inadequate, pilot in command (cause)
  - weather condition - gusts (contributing factor)
  - stall - inadvertent, pilot in command (cause)
- In flight collision with terrain/water, descent - uncontrolled

## Analysis

DURING STRONG GUSTING WINDS THE PRIVATE PLT WAS ATTEMPTING TO GIVE DUAL INSTRUCTION. DURING SHORT FINAL FOR RWY 27 AND THE WIND FROM 270 AT 8 TO 12 KNOTS GUSTING TO 18 KNOTS AN APPROACH STALL WAS ENTERED INTO A ABOUT 50 FEET AGL. ALTHOUGH AN ATTEMPTED RECOVERY WAS MADE, THE ACFT STRUCK THE RWY AND THEN CAME TO REST AFTER IT STRUCK AN FBO'S BUILDING.

## Aircraft

- Registration: [N25231](https://openairdocs.org/aircraft/N25231), registered now, S/N 1136 (OpenAirDocs)
- Reported make and model: Luscombe 8A
- Registry model: [Luscombe 8A](https://openairdocs.org/model/luscombe-8a) (registry code 8190104) (OpenAirDocs)
- Registry engine: [Continental A&C65 series](https://openairdocs.org/engine/continental-a-c65-series) (registry code 17003, reciprocating) (OpenAirDocs)
- Category: Airplane
- Serial number: 1136
- Airframe hours: 2706
- Engines: CONTINENTAL A-65-8 65 horsepower reciprocating
- Damage: Substantial damage
- Flight: Personal, Part 91
- Registered owner: Delbert Blume
- Airworthiness certificate: Standard, Normal
- Last inspection: Annual, May 31, 1985
- Departed: S68, OROFINO, ID
- Destination: S68, OROFINO, ID
- Airport: S68, Orofino Municipal, runway 27, 2,520 × 50 ft, asphalt

## Flight crew

As NTSB recorded them. NTSB leaves out names.

- Pilot; age 57; private; airplane ratings: single-engine land; medical: class 3, expired; seat: right; flight hours: 912 total, 12 in this make and model, 882 as pilot in command, 17 in the last 90 days

## Weather

- Conditions: Visual (VMC), Day
- Wind: 270° at 10 knots, gusting 18
- Visibility: 20 statute miles
- Lowest ceiling: none
- Temperature: 81 °F

## FAA reports on this event (1)

The FAA's own accident and incident reports, matched to the aircraft by N-number and date (OpenAirDocs).

- [Accident 19850623028009A](https://openairdocs.org/incident/19850623028009A), Jun 23, 1985: Luscom 8A, Orofino, ID, Substantial damage. Stalled on short final. Made uncontrolled descent to impact. Pilot without medical or biennial flight review.

From the NTSB's public API. Aircraft are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported serial number, make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model.

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