# NTSB SEA85LA170: Piper PA-24-250, N5829P, Mccall, ID, July 5, 1985

- Type: NTSB accident investigation
- Classification: Accident · No injuries · Limited investigation · Final report
- Date: July 5, 1985, 08:30 local (14:30 UTC)
- Place: Mccall, ID
- Coordinates: 45.069889, -115.969932 (estimated)
- Nearby events: https://openairdocs.org/map.md?lat=45.0699&lon=-115.9699&mi=10
- Phase of flight: [Enroute](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-phases/400) (OpenAirDocs' grouping)
- Highest injury: No injuries
- Injuries: 4 uninjured
- Status: Completed
- Report: Approved by Office Director
- NTSB case key (mKey): 40203
- NTSB case page: https://web.ntsb.gov/investigations/?ntsbnumber=SEA85LA170
- NTSB report (PDF, downloads): https://data.ntsb.gov/carol-repgen/api/Aviation/ReportMain/GenerateNewestReport/40203/pdf
- Page: https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/SEA85LA170

## Sequence of events

In NTSB's coding before 2008 (https://www.ntsb.gov/GILS/Documents/codman.pdf).

- Loss of engine power(total) - nonmechanical, descent - normal
  - fluid,fuel - exhaustion (cause)
  - aircraft preflight - inadequate, pilot in command (cause)
  - fuel supply - inadequate, pilot in command (cause)
- Forced landing, descent - emergency
- On ground/water encounter with terrain/water, landing - roll

## Analysis

THE ACFT WAS DAMAGED DURING A FORCED LANDING IN A FLD FOLLOWING FUEL EXHAUSTION. THE PLT REPORTED HE DEPARTED YELLOW PINE, ID, WITH THE FUEL GAGES INDICATING 1/2. UPON REACHING AN ALT OF 10,000 FT, THE ENG QUIT DUE TO FUEL EXHAUSTION. THE RIGHT FUEL TANK WAS THEN SELECTED AND THE ENG WAS RESTARTED. A LANDING WAS MADE AT CASCADE, ID, TO OBTAIN FUEL, HOWEVER, FUEL WAS NOT AVAILABLE AT THE ARPT. TAKEOFF FROM CASCADE WAS MADE WITH THE FUEL GAGE INDICATING 1/4 FULL. AT AN ALT OF 6,500 FT, 3 MILES FROM MCCALL ARPT, THE ENG QUIT ONCE AGAIN DUE TO FUEL EXHAUSTION AND THE FORCED LANDING RESULTED.

## Aircraft

- Registration: [N5829P](https://openairdocs.org/deregistered/N5829P-2003-05-01), registration cancelled 2003-05-01, S/N 24-910, built 1959 (OpenAirDocs)
- Reported make and model: PIPER PA-24-250
- Registry model: [Piper PA-24-250](https://openairdocs.org/model/piper-pa-24-250) (registry code 7102404) (OpenAirDocs)
- Registry engine: [Lycoming 0-540 series](https://openairdocs.org/engine/lycoming-0-540-series) (registry code 41532, reciprocating) (OpenAirDocs)
- Category: Airplane
- Serial number: 25-910
- Engines: LYCOMING O-540-A1A5 250 horsepower reciprocating
- Damage: Substantial damage
- Flight: Personal, Part 91
- Registered owner: Floyd Blamiers
- Airworthiness certificate: Standard, Normal
- Departed: 3U2, YELLOW PINE, ID
- Destination: MYL, MCCALL, ID

## Flight crew

As NTSB recorded them. NTSB leaves out names.

- Pilot; age 32; private; airplane ratings: single-engine land; medical: class 2, valid medical--no waivers/lim.; seat: left; flight hours: 806 total, 65 in this make and model, 682 as pilot in command, 34 in the last 90 days, 4 in the last 24 hours

## Weather

- Conditions: Visual (VMC), Day
- Wind: calm
- Visibility: 50 statute miles
- Lowest ceiling: none
- Temperature: 70 °F

## FAA reports on this event (1)

The FAA's own accident and incident reports, matched to the aircraft by N-number and date (OpenAirDocs).

- [Accident 19850705034709A](https://openairdocs.org/incident/19850705034709A), Jul 5, 1985: Piper PA24250, Mccall, ID, Substantial damage. Ran one fuel tank dry. Landed for fuel and none available. Took off again, ran out of fuel near alternate airport.

## Other investigations on N5829P (1)

From the NTSB's public API. Aircraft are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported serial number, make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model.

- [NTSB SEA76DYG14](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/SEA76DYG14), Sep 14, 1975: Piper PA-24 (N5829P), Richland, WA, substantial damage

From the NTSB's public API. Aircraft are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported serial number, make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model.

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