# NTSB SEA85LA210: Beech A23, N2377J, Winnemucca, NV, September 10, 1985

- Type: NTSB accident investigation
- Classification: Accident · Serious injuries · Limited investigation · Final report
- Date: September 10, 1985, 12:45 local (19:45 UTC)
- Place: Winnemucca, NV
- Coordinates: 41.119651, -118.050354 (estimated)
- Nearby events: https://openairdocs.org/map.md?lat=41.1197&lon=-118.0504&mi=10
- Phase of flight: [Initial climb](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-phases/350) (OpenAirDocs' grouping)
- Highest injury: Serious injuries
- Injuries: 1 serious
- Status: Completed
- Report: Approved by Office Director
- NTSB case key (mKey): 40236
- NTSB case page: https://web.ntsb.gov/investigations/?ntsbnumber=SEA85LA210
- NTSB report (PDF, downloads): https://data.ntsb.gov/carol-repgen/api/Aviation/ReportMain/GenerateNewestReport/40236/pdf
- Page: https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/SEA85LA210

## Sequence of events

In NTSB's coding before 2008 (https://www.ntsb.gov/GILS/Documents/codman.pdf).

- Loss of control - in flight, takeoff - initial climb
  - procedures/directives - not followed
  - improper use of procedure, flight instructor(on ground)
  - improper use of procedure, pilot in command
  - inadequate transition/upgrade training, flight instructor(on ground) (contributing factor)
  - weather condition - high density altitude (contributing factor)
  - weather condition - tailwind (contributing factor)
  - wrong runway - selected, pilot in command (contributing factor)
  - airspeed - not maintained, pilot in command (cause)
  - stall - inadvertent, pilot in command (cause)
- In flight collision with terrain/water, descent - uncontrolled

## Analysis

THE STUDENT HAD RECENTLY PURCHASED THE ACFT. ON 9/5/85, AN INSTRUCTOR PLT, WHO HAD DELIVERED THE ACFT TO THE WINNEMUCCA ARPT, GAVE THE STUDENT A TOTAL OF 0.4 HR DUAL INSTRUCTION, WHICH INCLUDED 2 LANDINGS. THE INSTRUCTOR THEN INDORSED THE STUDENT'S LOG BOOK FOR SOLO FLT IN THIS ACFT, BUT HE DID NOT INDORSE THE STUDENT'S PLT CERTIFICATE. FIVE DAYS LATER,THE STUDENT ELECTED TO GO ON HIS 1ST SOLO FLT IN THE ACFT. HE TOOK OFF WITH A QUARTERING TAIL WIND. HE STATED THAT DRG THE TAKEOFF, THE ENG SEEMED TO BE LOSING POWER, ALTHOUGH ITS SOUND SEEMED TO REMAIN STEADY. AFTER REACHING APRX 50 FT AGL, IN A NOSE HIGH ATTITUDE, THE ACFT SETTLED & FELL OFF ON ITS RIGHT WING, THEN IT COLLIDED WITH THE GROUND. THE DENSITY ALT ON THE DAY OF THE ACCIDENT WAS 4300 FT. NO PREIMPACT PART FAILURE OR MALFUNCTION OF THE ACFT OR ENG WAS FOUND.

## Aircraft

- Registration: [N2377J](https://openairdocs.org/deregistered/N2377J-1989-03-16), registration cancelled 1989-03-16, S/N M590 (OpenAirDocs)
- Reported make and model: BEECH A23
- Registry model: [Beech A23](https://openairdocs.org/model/beech-a23) (registry code 1151204) (OpenAirDocs)
- Category: Airplane
- Serial number: M590
- Airframe hours: 2850
- Engines: CONTINENTAL IO-346-A 165 horsepower reciprocating
- Damage: Destroyed
- Flight: Personal, Part 91
- Registered owner: George T. Tuttle
- Airworthiness certificate: Standard, Normal
- Last inspection: Annual, August 28, 1985, 5 hours before
- Airport: WMC, Winnemucca Muni, runway 20, 5,000 × 150 ft, asphalt

## Flight crew

As NTSB recorded them. NTSB leaves out names.

- Pilot; age 44; student; medical: class 3, valid medical--no waivers/lim.; seat: left; flight hours: 55 total, 1 in this make and model, 22 as pilot in command, 28 in the last 90 days, 9 in the last 30 days

## Weather

- Conditions: Visual (VMC), Day
- Wind: 350° at 10 knots
- Visibility: 90 statute miles
- Lowest ceiling: 10,000 ft broken
- Temperature: 52 °F, dew point 36 °F
- Altimeter: 29.00 inHg
- Observed at: WMC

## FAA reports on this event (1)

The FAA's own accident and incident reports, matched to the aircraft by N-number and date (OpenAirDocs).

- [Accident 19850910043989A](https://openairdocs.org/incident/19850910043989A), Sep 10, 1985: Beech A23, Winnemwcca, NV, Destroyed. Took off downwind with nose high attitude. Stalled and impacted ground. Student did not have a thorough checkout.

## Other investigations on N2377J (1)

From the NTSB's public API. Aircraft are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported serial number, make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model.

- [NTSB OAK68D0175](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/OAK68D0175), Aug 28, 1967: Beech A23 (N2377J), Plsnt Grove, CA, substantial damage

From the NTSB's public API. Aircraft are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported serial number, make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model.

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