# NTSB WPR09LA039: Brantly B-2B, N2274U, Camas, WA, November 17, 2008

- Type: NTSB accident investigation
- Classification: Accident · Minor injuries · Limited investigation · Final report
- Date: November 17, 2008, 11:28 local (19:28 UTC)
- Place: Camas, WA
- Coordinates: 45.627777, -122.404441 (estimated)
- Nearby events: https://openairdocs.org/map.md?lat=45.6278&lon=-122.4044&mi=10
- Phase of flight: [Initial climb](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-phases/350) (OpenAirDocs' grouping)
- Defining event: [Initial climb: Loss of engine power (total)](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-events/341)
- Highest injury: Minor injuries
- Injuries: 2 minor
- Status: Completed, report April 22, 2010
- Report: Approved by Office Director
- NTSB office: Western Pacific Region
- Parties: Federal Aviation Administration FSDO
- NTSB case key (mKey): 69455
- NTSB case page: https://web.ntsb.gov/investigations/?ntsbnumber=WPR09LA039
- NTSB report (PDF, downloads): https://data.ntsb.gov/carol-repgen/api/Aviation/ReportMain/GenerateNewestReport/69455/pdf
- NTSB docket: https://data.ntsb.gov/Docket?ProjectID=69455
- Page: https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/WPR09LA039

## Probable cause

A loss of engine power for undermined reasons. Contributing to the accident was the low altitude and airspeed, which precluded making a safe autorotation.

## Findings

NTSB's coded findings; those marked are part of the probable cause.

- [Performance/control parameters](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-findings/01062000): Aircraft › Aircraft oper/perf/capability · Attain/maintain not possible (probable cause); cases with it: [Brantly B-2B, 3 cases](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-findings/01062000/cases.md?model=1440506), [All aircraft, 1,269 cases](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-findings/01062000/cases.md)
- [Not determined](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-findings/05000000): Not determined › Not determined · Unknown/Not determined (probable cause); cases with it: [Brantly B-2B, 2 cases](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-findings/05000000/cases.md?model=1440506), [All aircraft, 2,247 cases](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-findings/05000000/cases.md)

## Sequence of events

The events NTSB coded, in order, by phase of flight. The defining event best describes what happened.

- [Initial climb: Loss of engine power (total)](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-events/341) (defining event); cases with it: [Brantly B-2B, 1 case](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-events/341/sequence.md?model=1440506), [All aircraft, 3,820 cases](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-events/341/sequence.md)
- [Autorotation: Attempted remediation/recovery](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-events/060); cases with it: [Brantly B-2B, 2 cases](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-events/060/sequence.md?model=1440506), [All aircraft, 1,422 cases](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-events/060/sequence.md)
- [Landing-flare/touchdown: Hard landing](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-events/092); cases with it: [Brantly B-2B, 4 cases](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-events/092/sequence.md?model=1440506), [All aircraft, 2,102 cases](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-events/092/sequence.md)

## Analysis

The owner/student and certified flight instructor (CFI) reported that they made one successful trip around the landing pattern, and landed. The second takeoff was progressing with the engine revolutions per minute (rpm) and manifold pressure in the high normal range. The CFI stated that about 30 to 50 feet above ground level (agl) at 45 to 50 miles per hour (mph), the engine just stopped. It did not sputter, skip, or give any indications that there was a problem. The CFI took the controls, and steered the helicopter to a grassy area on the left side of the runway. He kept it upright, and touched down hard on the skids first. Examination of the helicopter by a Federal Aviation Administration inspector revealed no evidence of catastrophic engine failure, or any other reason for the loss of power. Review of a video of the accident indicated that the helicopter maintained an almost level attitude throughout the descent. It descended at a constant attitude with no apparent flare/deceleration. A factory pilot for the manufacturer reported that in order to make a safe autorotation, the air speed must be above 40 miles per hour, the rotor rpm must be in the green, and a deceleration must occur in the last 25 to 35 feet that will allow using airspeed to slow the rate of descent. The factory pilot stated that the helicopter was probably outside of the parameters for a successful autorotation and he did not think that the instructor had enough time and altitude to make a safe autorotation.

## Factual narrative

On November 17, 2008, about 1128 Pacific standard time, a Brantly B-2B, N2274U, made a hard landing following a loss of engine power during takeoff from Grove Field, Camas, Washington. The owner was operating the helicopter under the provisions of 14 Code of Federal Regulations (CFR) Part 91. The certified flight instructor (CFI) and the student pilot/owner sustained minor injuries; the helicopter sustained substantial damage to the airframe and main rotor blades. The local instructional flight departed Camas about 1110. Visual meteorological conditions prevailed, and no flight plan had been filed. The CFI submitted a written statement. He indicated that the owner was learning to fly helicopters at a flight school, and was preparing to solo. The owner wanted the CFI to verify that he was ready for solo. The CFI asked several times about the helicopter’s annual status, since he knew that it had been at a maintenance shop awaiting completion of the annual inspection. The owner insured him that it was done, and signed off. The CFI had accumulated 7 hours in the Brantly. The owner and CFI pushed the helicopter out of the hangar, and to a fuel station. They added 12 gallons, which filled the tank. They then moved the helicopter to an open area, and performed a preflight inspection. The helicopter started with no difficulties encountered. After warming the oil to operating temperatures, they checked both magnetos and noted that they were functioning properly. The owner taxied to the runway, and then performed a normal takeoff. The CFI stated that the engine’s revolutions per minute (rpm) were in the green operating arc, and the manifold pressure was in the top of the normal operating limits. They flew around the landing pattern, and landed to the west. The CFI directed the student to fly another normal takeoff and pattern to a normal approach. The CFI indicated that the second takeoff was progressing with the engine rpm and manifold pressure in the high normal range. About 30 to 50 feet above ground level (agl) at 45 to 50 miles per hour (mph), he said that the engine just stopped. It did not sputter, skip, or give any indications that there was a problem. The CFI took the controls, and steered the helicopter to a grassy area on the left side of the runway. He only had a few seconds, but concentrated on keeping it upright and touching down skids first. He felt that he did as much of a run on autorotation as possible with the available altitude. A Federal Aviation Administration inspector examined the helicopter, and noted no evidence of catastrophic engine failure. Maintenance personnel disassembled the helicopter, and removed it to a hangar. Attempts to contact the owner for further examination were unsuccessful. Review of a video of the accident indicated that the helicopter maintained an almost level attitude throughout the descent. It descended at a constant attitude with no apparent flare/deceleration. A factory pilot for Brantly reviewed thevideo and CFI’s statement. He indicated that several conditions are required in order to make a safe autorotation. The airspeed must be above 40 miles per hour, the rotor rpm must be in the green, and a deceleration must occur in the last 25 to 35 feet that will allow using airspeed to slow rate of descent. A planned autorotation can be accomplished at this altitude, but he does not recommend them. After watching the video, he did not believe that this instructor had enough time and altitude to make a safe autorotation, due to not being on the controls at the time of the loss of power.

## Aircraft

- Registration: [N2274U](https://openairdocs.org/deregistered/N2274U-2012-08-13), registration cancelled 2012-08-13, S/N 439, built 1965 (OpenAirDocs)
- Reported make and model: BRANTLY B-2B
- Registry model: [Brantly B-2B](https://openairdocs.org/model/brantly-b-2b) (registry code 1440506) (OpenAirDocs)
- Registry engine: [Lycoming O&VO-360 series](https://openairdocs.org/engine/lycoming-o-vo-360-series) (registry code 41514, reciprocating) (OpenAirDocs)
- Category: Helicopter
- Serial number: 439
- Engines: Lycoming IVO-360-A 180 horsepower reciprocating
- Damage: Substantial damage
- Flight: Instructional, Part 91
- Operator: David S. Spencer
- Registered owner: David S. Spencer
- Airworthiness certificate: Standard, Normal
- Last inspection: Annual, October 31, 2007
- Departed: 1W1, Camas, WA
- Destination: 1W1, Camas, WA
- Airport: 1W1, Grove Field, runway 25, 2,710 × 40 ft, asphalt

## Flight crew

As NTSB recorded them. NTSB leaves out names.

- Flight instructor; age 38; injuries: minor; commercial, private, flight instructor; airplane ratings: single-engine land; medical: class 2, without waivers/limitations; seat: left; flight hours: 1,700 total, 11 in this make and model, 339 in the last 90 days
- Student pilot; age 49; injuries: minor; private; airplane ratings: single-engine land; medical: class 2, without waivers/limitations; seat: right; flight hours: 9 in this make and model

## Weather

- Conditions: Visual (VMC), Day
- Wind: 310° at 5 knots
- Visibility: 7 statute miles
- Lowest ceiling: 25,000 ft broken
- Temperature: 50 °F, dew point 46 °F
- Altimeter: 30.12 inHg
- Observed at: PDX, 8 nm away

## FAA reports on this event (1)

The FAA's own accident and incident reports, matched to the aircraft by N-number and date (OpenAirDocs).

- [Accident 20081117852299A](https://openairdocs.org/incident/20081117852299A), Nov 17, 2008: Brantl B2B, Camas, WA, Substantial damage. (-23) The helicopter was being flown for the purpose of conducting an instructional flight. The owner/student had flown for approximately 15 minutes and made…

## Other investigations on N2274U (2)

From the NTSB's public API. Aircraft are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported serial number, make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model.

- [NTSB CHI05CA120](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/CHI05CA120), May 20, 2005: Brantly Helicopter B-2B (N2274U), Lakeview, MI, substantial damage. Probable cause: The dual student failed to maintain adequate rotor rpm during the practice autorotation and the instructor's delay in attempting remedial action. A factor associated with the accident was the soft…
- [NTSB FTW66A0042](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/FTW66A0042), Nov 6, 1965: Brantly B-2B (N2274U), Wynne Wood, OK, substantial damage

## Docket (2 files)

The files NTSB released with the investigation on January 27, 2010, on NTSB's docket system: https://data.ntsb.gov/Docket?ProjectID=69455. 255 KB in all.

- CFI Statement (item 1, .PDF, 218 KB): https://data.ntsb.gov/Docket/Document/docBLOB?ID=40309711&FileExtension=.PDF&FileName=CFI%20Statement-Redacted.PDF
- Record of Conversation with Factory Pilot (item 2, .PDF, 37 KB): https://data.ntsb.gov/Docket/Document/docBLOB?ID=40317678&FileExtension=.PDF&FileName=Record%20of%20Conversation%20with%20Factory%20Pilot-Master.PDF

From the NTSB's public API. Aircraft are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported serial number, make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model.

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