# NTSB WPR10LA105: Piper PA-28-181, N29285, Apple Valley, CA, January 8, 2010 - Type: NTSB accident investigation - Classification: Accident · No injuries · Limited investigation · Final report - Date: January 8, 2010, 07:00 local (15:00 UTC) - Place: Apple Valley, CA - Coordinates: 34.575279, -117.186111 (estimated) - Nearby events: https://openairdocs.org/map.md?lat=34.5753&lon=-117.1861&mi=10 - Phase of flight: [Landing](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-phases/550) (OpenAirDocs' grouping) - Defining event: [Landing-landing roll: Loss of control on ground](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-events/230) - Highest injury: No injuries - Injuries: 2 uninjured - Status: Completed, report April 12, 2011 - Report: Approved by Office Director - NTSB office: Western Pacific Region - Parties: Federal Aviation Administration Riverside FSDO - NTSB case key (mKey): 75252 - NTSB case page: https://web.ntsb.gov/investigations/?ntsbnumber=WPR10LA105 - NTSB report (PDF, downloads): https://data.ntsb.gov/carol-repgen/api/Aviation/ReportMain/GenerateNewestReport/75252/pdf - NTSB docket: https://data.ntsb.gov/Docket?ProjectID=75252 - Page: https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/WPR10LA105 ## Probable cause The pilot's loss of directional control during the landing roll and the check airman’s delayed remedial response. ## Findings NTSB's coded findings; those marked are part of the probable cause. - [Performance/control parameters: directional control](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-findings/01062020): Aircraft › Aircraft oper/perf/capability · Not attained/maintained (probable cause); cases with it: [Piper PA-28-181, 37 cases](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-findings/01062020/cases.md?model=7102807), [All aircraft, 3,958 cases](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-findings/01062020/cases.md) - [Use of equip/info: aircraft control](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-findings/02063040): Personnel issues › Task performance · Pilot (probable cause); cases with it: [Piper PA-28-181, 53 cases](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-findings/02063040/cases.md?model=7102807), [All aircraft, 9,295 cases](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-findings/02063040/cases.md) - [Object/animal/substance: sign/marker](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-findings/03022015): Environmental issues › Physical environment · Contributed to outcome; cases with it: [Piper PA-28-181, 8 cases](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-findings/03022015/cases.md?model=7102807), [All aircraft, 214 cases](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-findings/03022015/cases.md) ## Sequence of events The events NTSB coded, in order, by phase of flight. The defining event best describes what happened. - [Landing-landing roll: Loss of control on ground](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-events/230) (defining event); cases with it: [Piper PA-28-181, 33 cases](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-events/230/sequence.md?model=7102807), [All aircraft, 4,585 cases](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-events/230/sequence.md) - [Landing-landing roll: Runway excursion](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-events/300); cases with it: [Piper PA-28-181, 35 cases](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-events/300/sequence.md?model=7102807), [All aircraft, 3,643 cases](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-events/300/sequence.md) - [Landing-landing roll: Collision with terr/obj (non-CFIT) ](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-events/470); cases with it: [Piper PA-28-181, 70 cases](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-events/470/sequence.md?model=7102807), [All aircraft, 10,189 cases](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-events/470/sequence.md) ## Analysis The pilot reported that he completed five touch-and-go takeoffs and landings. During the last landing rollout, the airplane was traveling about 5 knots when it began to veer to the right. The pilot tried to correct by applying left rudder and left brake. The airplane continued drifting to the right and the check airman applied left brake. The airplane subsequently departed the runway and collided with a taxiway sign. The right main gear folded and the wing and aileron sustained substantial damage. During a postaccident examination of the airplane no mechanical anomalies with the brakes or other airplane systems were found. ## Factual narrative On January 8, 2010, about 0700 Pacific standard time, a Piper PA-28-181, N29285, veered off the runway and collided with a sign at Apple Valley, California. Midfield Aviation was operating the rental airplane under the provisions of 14 Code of Federal Regulations (CFR) Part 91. The certificated private pilot and a certified flight instructor (CFI) check pilot were not injured; the airplane sustained substantial damage to the right wing and aileron. The local instructional flight departed Apple Valley about 0600. Visual meteorological conditions prevailed, and no flight plan had been filed. The pilot completed five touch-and-go landings on runway 18. The airplane was going about 5 knots on the last landing rollout when it began to veer to the right. The pilot tried to correct with the left rudder and left brake. The airplane continued drifting to the right, and the check airman applied left brake. The airplane departed the runway and collided with a taxiway sign. The right main gear folded; the wing and aileron sustained substantial damage. The owner of the airplane was a Federal Aviation Administration certified Airframe and Powerplant mechanic. He examined the airplane after the accident, and completed the repairs. He stated that he discovered no mechanical anomalies with the brakes or other airplane systems during the repair. ## Aircraft - Registration: [N29285](https://openairdocs.org/aircraft/N29285), registered now, S/N 28-7990446, built 1979 (OpenAirDocs) - Reported make and model: PIPER PA-28-181 - Registry model: [Piper PA-28-181](https://openairdocs.org/model/piper-pa-28-181) (registry code 7102807) (OpenAirDocs) - Registry engine: [Lycoming O&VO-360 series](https://openairdocs.org/engine/lycoming-o-vo-360-series) (registry code 41514, reciprocating) (OpenAirDocs) - Category: Airplane - Serial number: 28-7990446 - Airframe hours: 10084 - Engines: LYCOMING O-360-A4M 180 horsepower reciprocating - Damage: Substantial damage - Flight: Instructional, Part 91 - Operator: Patrick Zrelak, doing business as Midfield Aviation - Registered owner: Patrick Zrelak - Airworthiness certificate: Standard, Normal - Last inspection: 100 hour, November 27, 2009, 22 hours before - Departed: APV, Apple Valley, CA - Destination: APV, Apple Valley, CA - Airport: APV, Apple Valley, runway 18, 6,498 × 150 ft, asphalt ## Flight crew As NTSB recorded them. NTSB leaves out names. - Pilot; age 44; injuries: none; private; airplane ratings: single-engine land; medical: class 3, without waivers/limitations; last flight review November 17, 2009; seat: left; flight hours: 82 total, 1 in this make and model, 30 in the last 90 days, 10 in the last 30 days - Check pilot; age 50; injuries: none; commercial, flight instructor, private; airplane ratings: multi-engine land, single-engine land; instrument ratings: airplane; medical: class 2, with waivers/limitations; last flight review April 11, 2009; seat: right; flight hours: 1,500 total, 500 in this make and model, 1,100 as pilot in command, 200 in the last 90 days, 80 in the last 30 days, 2 in the last 24 hours ## Weather - Conditions: Visual (VMC), Day - Wind: 150° at 5 knots - Visibility: 10 statute miles - Lowest ceiling: none - Temperature: 36 °F, dew point 27 °F - Altimeter: 30.19 inHg - Observed at: KVCV, 10 nm away ## FAA reports on this event (1) The FAA's own accident and incident reports, matched to the aircraft by N-number and date (OpenAirDocs). - [Accident 20100108025929A](https://openairdocs.org/incident/20100108025929A), Jan 8, 2010: Piper PA-28-181, Apple Valley, CA, Substantial damage. Durning landing roll out on runway 18 at kapv the aircraft began to drift right. Pilot on the contrls applied right rudder then brake without results. The CFI… ## Docket (2 files) The files NTSB released with the investigation on December 1, 2010, on NTSB's docket system: https://data.ntsb.gov/Docket?ProjectID=75252. 570 KB in all. - Pilot/Operator Aircraft Accident Report, NTSB Form 6120.1 (item 1, .PDF, 533 KB): https://data.ntsb.gov/Docket/Document/docBLOB?ID=40325437&FileExtension=.PDF&FileName=Pilot%2FOperator%20Aircraft%20Accident%20Report,%20NTSB%20Form%206120.1-Redacted.PDF - Record of Conversation Owner/Operator (item 2, .PDF, 38 KB): https://data.ntsb.gov/Docket/Document/docBLOB?ID=40339334&FileExtension=.PDF&FileName=Record%20of%20Conversation%20Owner%2FOperator-Master.PDF From the NTSB's public API. 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