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Accident · Substantial damage

FAA accident report · Cessna A185F · Talkeetna, AK · August 31, 1998

Date
August 31, 1998 · 17:50 local
Place
Talkeetna, AK
Airport
Talkeetna Airport
Phase of flight
Roll-Out (Fixed Wing)
Operating rules
Air taxi and commuter (Part 135)
Operator
INYC
Damage
Substantial damage
Aircraft
N333DG
NTSB investigation
NTSBANC98LA134
Reported as
Cessna A185F
Reported engine
Continental IO520D
People aboard
5
Fatal injuries
0
Pilot’s flight hours
755 total200 in this make and model170 in the last 90 days

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What happened

The FAA’s narrative, in sentence case. The FAA writes it in capitals and removes private details.

(.19)On August 31, 1998, about 1750 Alaska daylight time, a wheel equipped Cessna 185E airplane, N333DG, sustained substantial damage while landing at the Talkeetna Airport, taldeetna, Alaska. The airplane was being operated as a visual flight rules (VFR) local area flightseeing flight under title 14 CFR part 135 when the accident occurred. The certificated commercial pilot, and the four passengers aboard, were not injured. Visual meteorological conditions prevailed, and a company flight plan was filed. The flight originated at the Talkeetna Airport, about 1700. During a telephone conversation with the national transportation safety board investigator-in-charge, on August 1, 1998, the pilot reported that he had just landed on runway 18. The pilot stated that the touchdown and the landing roll was uneventful, until the airplane's nose veered slight to the right. The pilot compensated by applying left rudder, and airplane suddenly ground looped to the left. The left wing and left elevator collided with the runway during the ground loop, and both sustained substantial damage. The pilot reported that during the ground loop the left wheel casting separated, and was found about twenty feet behind the accident site. The pilot stated that the wind conditions at the time of the accident were reported to be calm. (.4) the commercial pilot was landing a tailwheel equipped airplane on a gravel runway. The pilot stated that the touchdown and the landing roll were uneventful, until the airplane's nose veered slightly to the right. He said he compensated by applying left rudder, but the airplane suddenly ground looped to the right. The left wing and left elevator collided with the runway during the ground loop, and both sustained substantial damage. The pilot reported that during the ground loop, the left wheel casting separated. In the NTSB pilot/operator report, the chief pilot stated that the flight was returning to Talkeetna earlier than scheduled with a sick passenger aboard. He said that the pilot intended to land in the gravel area just short of the paved runway, eliminating the need to back taxi, and allowing the sick passenger to exit the airplane sooner. The operator reported that during touchdown, the pilot landed sideways, and the left wheel casting separated. Wind conditions at the time of the accident were reported to be calm. (-23) on August 31, 1998, at 1755 adt, a Cessna 185, aircraft 333DE sustained damage while landing at the Talkeetna Airport. The pilot stated the landing and initial roll-out were normal, when the pilot corrected a slight veer to the right, the aircraft suddenly ground-looped to the left. Damage was limited to the left wing, left elevator, and left wheel assembly.

As the FAA filed it

(.19)ON AUGUST 31, 1998, ABOUT 1750 ALASKA DAYLIGHT TIME, A WHEEL EQUIPPED CESSNA 185E AIRPLANE, N333DG, SUSTAINED SUBSTANTIAL DAMAGE WHILE LANDING AT THE TALKEETNA AIRPORT, TALDEETNA, ALASKA. THE AIRPLANE WAS BEING OPERATED AS A VISUAL FLIGHT RULES (VFR) LOCAL AREA FLIGHTSEEING FLIGHT UNDER TITLE 14 CFR PART 135 WHEN THE ACCIDENT OCCURRED. THE CERTIFICATED COMMERCIAL PILOT, AND THE FOUR PASSENGERS ABOARD, WERE NOT INJURED. VISUAL METEOROLOGICAL CONDITIONS PREVAILED, AND A COMPANY FLIGHT PLAN WAS FILED. THE FLIGHT ORIGINATED AT THE TALKEETNA AIRPORT, ABOUT 1700. DURING A TELEPHONE CONVERSATION WITH THE NATIONAL TRANSPORTATION SAFETY BOARD INVESTIGATOR-IN-CHARGE, ON AUGUST 1, 1998, THE PILOT REPORTED THAT HE HAD JUST LANDED ON RUNWAY 18. THE PILOT STATED THAT THE TOUCHDOWN AND THE LANDING ROLL WAS UNEVENTFUL, UNTIL THE AIRPLANE'S NOSE VEERED SLIGHT TO THE RIGHT. THE PILOT COMPENSATED BY APPLYING LEFT RUDDER, AND AIRPLANE SUDDENLY GROUND LOOPED TO THE LEFT. THE LEFT WING AND LEFT ELEVATOR COLLIDED WITH THE RUNWAY DURING THE GROUND LOOP, AND BOTH SUSTAINED SUBSTANTIAL DAMAGE. THE PILOT REPORTED THAT DURING THE GROUND LOOP THE LEFT WHEEL CASTING SEPARATED, AND WAS FOUND ABOUT TWENTY FEET BEHIND THE ACCIDENT SITE. THE PILOT STATED THAT THE WIND CONDITIONS AT THE TIME OF THE ACCIDENT WERE REPORTED TO BE CALM. (.4) THE COMMERCIAL PILOT WAS LANDING A TAILWHEEL EQUIPPED AIRPLANE ON A GRAVEL RUNWAY. THE PILOT STATED THAT THE TOUCHDOWN AND THE LANDING ROLL WERE UNEVENTFUL, UNTIL THE AIRPLANE'S NOSE VEERED SLIGHTLY TO THE RIGHT. HE SAID HE COMPENSATED BY APPLYING LEFT RUDDER, BUT THE AIRPLANE SUDDENLY GROUND LOOPED TO THE RIGHT. THE LEFT WING AND LEFT ELEVATOR COLLIDED WITH THE RUNWAY DURING THE GROUND LOOP, AND BOTH SUSTAINED SUBSTANTIAL DAMAGE. THE PILOT REPORTED THAT DURING THE GROUND LOOP, THE LEFT WHEEL CASTING SEPARATED. IN THE NTSB PILOT/OPERATOR REPORT, THE CHIEF PILOT STATED THAT THE FLIGHT WAS RETURNING TO TALKEETNA EARLIER THAN SCHEDULED WITH A SICK PASSENGER ABOARD. HE SAID THAT THE PILOT INTENDED TO LAND IN THE GRAVEL AREA JUST SHORT OF THE PAVED RUNWAY, ELIMINATING THE NEED TO BACK TAXI, AND ALLOWING THE SICK PASSENGER TO EXIT THE AIRPLANE SOONER. THE OPERATOR REPORTED THAT DURING TOUCHDOWN, THE PILOT LANDED SIDEWAYS, AND THE LEFT WHEEL CASTING SEPARATED. WIND CONDITIONS AT THE TIME OF THE ACCIDENT WERE REPORTED TO BE CALM. (-23) ON AUGUST 31, 1998, AT 1755 ADT, A CESSNA 185, AIRCRAFT 333DE SUSTAINED DAMAGE WHILE LANDING AT THE TALKEETNA AIRPORT. THE PILOT STATED THE LANDING AND INITIAL ROLL-OUT WERE NORMAL, WHEN THE PILOT CORRECTED A SLIGHT VEER TO THE RIGHT, THE AIRCRAFT SUDDENLY GROUND-LOOPED TO THE LEFT. DAMAGE WAS LIMITED TO THE LEFT WING, LEFT ELEVATOR, AND LEFT WHEEL ASSEMBLY.

NTSB investigation

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