20001029026419A

Accident · Substantial damage

FAA accident report · Cessna 182S · Rancho Calif, CA · October 29, 2000

Date
October 29, 2000 · 13:00 local
Place
Rancho Calif, CA
Airport
French Valley Airport
Phase of flight
To Init Climb(1st Pwr Reduct)
Operating rules
General operating rules (Part 91)
Damage
Substantial damage
Aircraft
N7279B
NTSB investigation
NTSBLAX01LA031
Reported as
Cessna 182S
Reported engine
Lycoming IO540AB1A5
People aboard
2
Fatal injuries
0
Pilot’s flight hours
478 total22 in this make and model61 in the last 90 days

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What happened

The FAA’s narrative, in sentence case. The FAA writes it in capitals and removes private details.

(-23) The pilot was attempting his second practice take-off from the runway at the French Valley Airport when he lost control of the a/c and crashed. During the take-off reoll, the a/c assumed a extremely nose high attitude, rolled right causing the right wing to contact runway edge. This caused the a/c to spin around and the left wing and side of the a/c contacted the ground resulting in substantial damage to the a/c. the pilot stated that he was intending to complete a short field take-off, but the technique he described, "control yoke full back" 20 degrees of flaps, and full engine power, describe the general technique for a soft field take-off. He overrotated during the initial phase of the take off and lost control of the a/c. there was a certificated instructor with the pilot, but both pilot and the CFI contend that it was not a dual instructional flight. Then the pilot, not the CFI, was the pilot in command. (.4)on October 29, 2000, about 1300 hours pacific standard time, a Cessna 182S, N7279B, operated by the private pilot/owner, was substantially damaged during takeoff at French valley, California. Neither the owner/pilot nor t he flight instructor/examiner pilot was injured. Visual meteorological conditions prevailed for the personal flight operating under 14 CFR part 91, and no flight plan was filed. The flight originated about 1245 as a local training/proficiency flight. The pilot stated that he was to practice short field takeoff procedures for use during trips to Mexico. A federal aviation administration (FAA) certified flight instructor/examiner was with him. They departed on runway 18, following the FAA approved information manual procedure for short field takeoffs. The first takeoff was a rolling start using 20 degrees of flaps, full power, and the yoke all the way back. After liftoff, the instructor/examiner suggested that he level off and land on the remaining runway, which they did. The second takeoff was from a full stop at the beginning of the runway. The pilot said he powered up the engine, and with the flaps set at 20 degrees and the control yoke full back, he released the brakes. At rotation he said the tail tie down ring and tail cone contacted the runway and the airplane pitched up so steeply that he gave control to the instructor/examiner. He stated that the instructor yelled, "I don't have control." The airplane rolled off onto the right wing, and then quartered forward onto the left wing and nose. During the postaccident examination of the airplane the elevator trim tab actuator was measured to have 1.25 inches of shaft extension. According to Cessna engineering information, 1.27 inches is considered to be the zero or neutral position. In his written report, the pilot stated there were no mechanical failures or malfunctions. The instructor/examiner failed to return a written report.

As the FAA filed it

(-23) THE PILOT WAS ATTEMPTING HIS SECOND PRACTICE TAKE-OFF FROM THE RUNWAY AT THE FRENCH VALLEY AIRPORT WHEN HE LOST CONTROL OF THE A/C AND CRASHED. DURING THE TAKE-OFF REOLL, THE A/C ASSUMED A EXTREMELY NOSE HIGH ATTITUDE, ROLLED RIGHT CAUSING THE RIGHT WING TO CONTACT RUNWAY EDGE. THIS CAUSED THE A/C TO SPIN AROUND AND THE LEFT WING AND SIDE OF THE A/C CONTACTED THE GROUND RESULTING IN SUBSTANTIAL DAMAGE TO THE A/C. THE PILOT STATED THAT HE WAS INTENDING TO COMPLETE A SHORT FIELD TAKE-OFF, BUT THE TECHNIQUE HE DESCRIBED, "CONTROL YOKE FULL BACK" 20 DEGREES OF FLAPS, AND FULL ENGINE POWER, DESCRIBE THE GENERAL TECHNIQUE FOR A SOFT FIELD TAKE-OFF. HE OVERROTATED DURING THE INITIAL PHASE OF THE TAKE OFF AND LOST CONTROL OF THE A/C. THERE WAS A CERTIFICATED INSTRUCTOR WITH THE PILOT, BUT BOTH PILOT AND THE CFI CONTEND THAT IT WAS NOT A DUAL INSTRUCTIONAL FLIGHT. THEN THE PILOT, NOT THE CFI, WAS THE PILOT IN COMMAND. (.4)ON OCTOBER 29, 2000, ABOUT 1300 HOURS PACIFIC STANDARD TIME, A CESSNA 182S, N7279B, OPERATED BY THE PRIVATE PILOT/OWNER, WAS SUBSTANTIALLY DAMAGED DURING TAKEOFF AT FRENCH VALLEY, CALIFORNIA. NEITHER THE OWNER/PILOT NOR T HE FLIGHT INSTRUCTOR/EXAMINER PILOT WAS INJURED. VISUAL METEOROLOGICAL CONDITIONS PREVAILED FOR THE PERSONAL FLIGHT OPERATING UNDER 14 CFR PART 91, AND NO FLIGHT PLAN WAS FILED. THE FLIGHT ORIGINATED ABOUT 1245 AS A LOCAL TRAINING/PROFICIENCY FLIGHT. THE PILOT STATED THAT HE WAS TO PRACTICE SHORT FIELD TAKEOFF PROCEDURES FOR USE DURING TRIPS TO MEXICO. A FEDERAL AVIATION ADMINISTRATION (FAA) CERTIFIED FLIGHT INSTRUCTOR/EXAMINER WAS WITH HIM. THEY DEPARTED ON RUNWAY 18, FOLLOWING THE FAA APPROVED INFORMATION MANUAL PROCEDURE FOR SHORT FIELD TAKEOFFS. THE FIRST TAKEOFF WAS A ROLLING START USING 20 DEGREES OF FLAPS, FULL POWER, AND THE YOKE ALL THE WAY BACK. AFTER LIFTOFF, THE INSTRUCTOR/EXAMINER SUGGESTED THAT HE LEVEL OFF AND LAND ON THE REMAINING RUNWAY, WHICH THEY DID. THE SECOND TAKEOFF WAS FROM A FULL STOP AT THE BEGINNING OF THE RUNWAY. THE PILOT SAID HE POWERED UP THE ENGINE, AND WITH THE FLAPS SET AT 20 DEGREES AND THE CONTROL YOKE FULL BACK, HE RELEASED THE BRAKES. AT ROTATION HE SAID THE TAIL TIE DOWN RING AND TAIL CONE CONTACTED THE RUNWAY AND THE AIRPLANE PITCHED UP SO STEEPLY THAT HE GAVE CONTROL TO THE INSTRUCTOR/EXAMINER. HE STATED THAT THE INSTRUCTOR YELLED, "I DON'T HAVE CONTROL." THE AIRPLANE ROLLED OFF ONTO THE RIGHT WING, AND THEN QUARTERED FORWARD ONTO THE LEFT WING AND NOSE. DURING THE POSTACCIDENT EXAMINATION OF THE AIRPLANE THE ELEVATOR TRIM TAB ACTUATOR WAS MEASURED TO HAVE 1.25 INCHES OF SHAFT EXTENSION. ACCORDING TO CESSNA ENGINEERING INFORMATION, 1.27 INCHES IS CONSIDERED TO BE THE ZERO OR NEUTRAL POSITION. IN HIS WRITTEN REPORT, THE PILOT STATED THERE WERE NO MECHANICAL FAILURES OR MALFUNCTIONS. THE INSTRUCTOR/EXAMINER FAILED TO RETURN A WRITTEN REPORT.

NTSB investigation

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