ANC93LA079

NTSB accident investigation · Cessna A185F · Kahiltna Glacie, AK · May 31, 1993

Accident · No injuriesLimited investigationFinal report
Date
May 31, 1993, 10:00 local (18:00 UTC)
Place
Kahiltna Glacie, AK
Injuries
4 uninjured
Damage
Substantial damage
Phase of flight
Takeoff
Aircraft
N333DGCessna A185F
Weather
Visual (VMC) · Day
Status
Completed · report June 30, 1994
Report
Approved by Office Director
NTSB office
Alaska Regional Office
FAA report
19930531019829A
Case key
2351

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Probable cause

The pilot-in-command not maintaining directional control. A factor is the rough condition of the glacier airstrip.

Sequence of events

NTSB’s coding before 2008: each occurrence and phase of flight, and the causes and factors under it. The codes are defined in NTSB’s coding manual.

Dragged wing,rotor,pod,float or tail/skidTakeoff - roll/run
Terrain condition - rough/unevenFactor
Directional control - not maintainedPilot in commandCause

Analysis

The pilot stated he was repositioning the airplane to another takeoff area. The passenger stated the pilot told them that once they got going there was no stopping. According to one passenger, they started the takeoff run down the slope of the glacier and the airplane made a sharp left 360 degree turn, lined up on the takeoff path again, and continued. The airplane made another sharp left turn and the right wing struck the glacier.

Factual narrative

On May 31, 1993, at 0900 Alaska daylight time, a wheel/ski equipped Cessna A-185F airplane, N333DG, registered to and operated by Doug Geeting Aviation of Talkeetna, Alaska, lost control while moving down slope on the glacier, and bent the left wing upwards. The Air Taxi flight was departing the 7,500 foot level of the Kahiltna Glacier and the destination was Talkeetna. Visual meteorological conditions prevailed and a company flight plan was in effect. The Airline Transport Certificated Pilot-in- Command and the three passengers were not injured and the airplane was substantially damaged.

According to the Pilot-in-Command, the passengers were on board and the takeoff area was very rutted. He stated he was taxiing to another takeoff area where he planned to get out and walk the area.

According to a passenger, the pilot stated to them that "once he got going there was no stopping." The airplane then started its takeoff roll down the face of the glacier. He stated that the airplane was at full power when it made a sharp left turn. It continued the turn and completed a 360 degree turn and again was traveling down the slope of the glacier. The airplane made another sharp left turn and the right wing struck the surface of the glacier.

According to the NTSB Form 6120.1/2, the pilot stated that he was taxiing to another takeoff location when the right ski failed and the airplane's right wing struck the ground. The accident occurred on May 31, 1993, and was reported on June 4, 1993. No parts from the right ski were submitted for examination, and the airplane was examined only after minor repairs had been accomplished. The airplane still showed substantial damage. The toxicological examination results were negative.

Aircraft

Registration
N333DG
Reported as
Cessna A185F
Category
Airplane
Serial number
18503234
Airframe hours
3,121
Engine
Continental IO-520-F, 300 horsepower, reciprocating
Damage
Substantial damage
Fire
Unknown
Flight
Part 135
Operator
Doug Geeting Aviation, doing business as Doug Geeting Aviation
Registered owner
Doug Geeting
Airworthiness certificate
Standard, Normal
Last inspection
100 hour · May 2, 1993 · 87 hours before
Destination
TKA · Talkeetna, AK
Flight plan
Company VFR

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Flight crew

As NTSB recorded them. NTSB leaves out names.

Role
Pilot
Age
42
Certificates
Commercial, Airline transport
Airplane ratings
Single-engine land, Multi-engine land, Single-engine sea
Instrument ratings
Airplane
Medical
Class 2, Valid Medical--no waivers/lim.
Seat
Left
Toxicology
Performed
Flight hours
15,500 total · 1,500 in this make and model · 1,200 as pilot in command · 35 in the last 90 days · 35 in the last 30 days · 3 in the last 24 hours

Weather

Conditions
Visual (VMC) · Day
Wind
Calm
Visibility
20 statute miles
Lowest ceiling
None
Temperature
45 °F

FAA reports on this event · 1

The FAA’s own accident and incident reports, matched to the aircraft by N-number and date.

Other investigations on N333DG · 2

Matched to the same aircraft by N-number and date.