ATL85LA038

NTSB accident investigation · Piper PA-28-180 · Luray Caverns, VA · November 17, 1984

Accident · No injuriesLimited investigationFinal report
Date
November 17, 1984, 16:15 local (21:15 UTC)
Place
Luray Caverns, VA
Injuries
3 uninjured
Damage
Substantial damage
Phase of flight
Initial climb
Aircraft
N9360JPiper PA-28-180
Weather
Visual (VMC) · Day
Status
Completed
Report
Approved by Office Director
FAA report
19841117062479A
Case key
6712

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Sequence of events

NTSB’s coding before 2008: each occurrence and phase of flight, and the causes and factors under it. The codes are defined in NTSB’s coding manual.

In flight collision with objectTakeoff - initial climb
Object - fenceFactor
Terrain condition - rough/unevenFactor
Preflight planning/preparation - inadequatePilot in command(cfi)Cause
Supervision - inadequatePilot in command(cfi)Cause
Mixture - improper use ofPilot in command(cfi)Cause
Emergency procedure - simulatedPilot in command(cfi)Factor

Analysis

The acft was landed on a inadequate field during a simulated forced landing that became a real emergency because the fltinstructor cut the mixture to off. The CFI took over the landing at the last part of the approach and told the student to restart the engine. The student lost time trying to restart with the mixture off. When he discovered the mixture off and corrected it they were on the ground. No damage was done until a takeoff was attempted and a fence was struck. The plt said that the field was rough and slowed their acceleration.

Aircraft

Registration
N9360J
Reported as
Piper PA-28-180
Category
Airplane
Serial number
28-3459
Airframe hours
2,648
Engine
Lycoming O-360, 180 horsepower, reciprocating
Damage
Substantial damage
Flight
Instructional · Part 91
Registered owner
Moseley, Elmo
Airworthiness certificate
Standard, Normal
Departed
New Market, VA

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Flight crew

As NTSB recorded them. NTSB leaves out names.

Role
Pilot
Age
43
Certificate
Private
Airplane ratings
Single-engine land
Medical
Class 3, Valid Medical--no waivers/lim.
Seat
Left
Flight hours
798 total · 358 in this make and model · 15 in the last 90 days · 2 in the last 24 hours

Weather

Conditions
Visual (VMC) · Day
Wind
290° at 10 knots
Visibility
25 statute miles
Lowest ceiling
None
Temperature
48 °F, dew point 16 °F
Altimeter
30.00 inHg
Observed at
DCA

FAA reports on this event · 1

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