BFO85IA056

NTSB incident investigation · Boeing 747-200 · New Orleans, LA · December 20, 1984

Incident · No injuriesIncident investigationFinal report
Date
December 20, 1984, 15:35 local (21:35 UTC)
Place
New Orleans, LA
Injuries
365 uninjured
Phase of flight
Approach
Aircraft
DABYPBoeing 747-200UNKUnknown Unknown
Weather
Visual (VMC) · Day
Status
Completed
Report
Approved by Office Director
Safety recommendations
Yes
Case key
11152

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Sequence of events

NTSB’s coding before 2008: each occurrence and phase of flight, and the causes and factors under it. The codes are defined in NTSB’s coding manual.

Near collision between aircraftApproach - iaf to faf/outer marker (ifr)
Approach charts - inadequateFactor
Insuff standards/requirements,airways/airspaceFaa(organization)Factor
Judgment - poorPilot of other aircraftCause
Visual lookout - inadequatePilot of other aircraftCause
Near collision between aircraftCruise
Approach charts - inadequateFactor
Insuff standards/requirements,airways/airspaceFaa(organization)Factor
Judgment - poorPilot in commandCause
Visual lookout - inadequatePilot in commandCause

Analysis

During arrival, a Boeing 747, registration number d-abyp, lufthansa flight 5432, was vectored for an ILS localizer backcourse apch to rwy 19 at the new orlean intl arpt. While on the apch at 2000 ft MSL, the aircrew were instructed by the arrival controller to contact the tower on another frequency. Shortly after that, the arrival controller observeda VFR coded target appear on the radar. He attempted to advise the noeing crew by using an override feature, but at that time, another controller was transmitting. The Boeing crew saw the acft coming head-on & took evasive action by making a steep turn to the right. The other acft was a light single eng plane that was flying at 2000 ft MSL. The light plane was never identified & was not observed to take evasive action. A group ii terminal control area (tca) was in place at New Orleans. The near collision occurred where the min alt for that part of the instr apch was at the bottomof the tca. VFR flt up to the bottom of the tca in that area was legal. The number of occupants in the se acft was unkn.

During arrival, a Boeing 747, registration number d-abyp, lufthansa flight 5432, was vectored for an ILS localizer backcourse apch to rwy 19 at the new orlean intl arpt. While on the apch at 2000 ft MSL, the aircrew were instructed by the arrival controller to contact the tower on another frequency. Shortly after that, the arrival controller observeda VFR coded target appear on the radar. He attempted to advise the Boeing crew by using an override feature, but at that time, another controller was transmitting. The Boeing crew saw the acft coming head-on & took evasive action by making a steep turn to the right. The other acft was a light single eng plane that was flying at 2000 ft MSL. The light plane was never identified & was not observed to take evasive action. A group ii terminal control area (tca) was in place at New Orleans. The near collision occurred where the min alt for that part of the instr apch was at the bottomof the tca. VFR flt up to the bottom of the tca in that area was legal. The number of occupants in the se acft was unkn.

Aircraft · 2

Registration
DABYP
Reported as
Boeing 747-200
Category
Airplane
Serial number
21590
Airframe hours
26,832
Engine
GE CF6-50E, turbo fan
Damage
No damage
Flight
Part 129
Registered owner
Lufthansa German Airlines
Airworthiness certificate
Standard, Transport
Departed
EDDF · Frnkfrt,Germany, OF
Destination
MSY · New Orleans, LA
Flight plan
IFR
Airport
runway 19, 7,000 × 150 ft, concrete
Registration
UNK
Reported as
Unknown Unknown
Category
Airplane
Engine
Unknown UNKNOWN, unknown
Damage
No damage
Flight
Part 91
Operator
Unknown
Registered owner
Unknown
Departed
Unknown
Destination
Unknown
Flight plan
Unknown

Flight crew · 2

As NTSB recorded them. NTSB leaves out names.

Role
Pilot, aircraft 1
Age
47
Certificate
Airline transport
Airplane ratings
Multi-engine land
Instrument ratings
Airplane
Medical
Class 1, Valid Medical--w/ waivers/lim
Seat
Left
Flight hours
12,000 total
Role
Pilot, aircraft 2
Medical
Unknown, Unknown

Weather

Conditions
Visual (VMC) · Day
Wind
180° at 10 knots
Visibility
7 statute miles
Lowest ceiling
25,000 ft broken
Temperature
73 °F, dew point 63 °F
Altimeter
30.00 inHg
Observed at
MSY, 9 nm away