- Date
- September 20, 2024, 12:04 local (17:04 UTC)
- Place
- Shakopee, MN
- Injuries
- 2 serious
- Damage
- Substantial damage
- Phase of flight
- Approach
- Aircraft
- N2083DPiper PA-44-180
- Defining event
- Approach-VFR pattern downwind: Fuel related
- Weather
- Visual (VMC) · Day
- Status
- Completed
- Report
- Approved by Office Director
- Investigation class
- Class 3
- NTSB office
- Central Region
- Parties
- FAA, Piper Aircraft Inc
- FAA report
- 20240920014009A
- Case key
- 195153
From the NTSB’s public API. By law, NTSB reports can’t be used as evidence in lawsuits over the accident.
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Probable cause
The pilots’ failure to apply carburetor heat during the descent, which resulted in a loss of power on both engines due to carburetor ice.
Findings · 4
NTSB’s coded findings. Those marked are part of the probable cause; the rest are factors or other findings. Under each, the cases with the same finding.
Sequence of events
The events NTSB coded, in order, by phase of flight. The defining event is the one that best describes the accident. Under each, the cases with the same event anywhere in their sequence.
Analysis
One of the pilots, a flight instructor, was recently hired to instruct in the airplane and was receiving a check out flight from the assistant chief flight instructor. The pilots reported that they were preparing to enter the traffic pattern, so they began a descent from their cruising altitude of about 5,500 ft msl to 1,000 ft msl. About three miles from the airport, both engines on the multi-engine airplane began to run rough. Shortly thereafter, both engines lost all power. Despite the pilots advancing the propellers, mixtures, and throttles to their full forward position, engine power was not restored. The airplane continued to descend, and the pilots performed an off-airport landing onto a field. One of the pilots stated that they did not perform an emergency checklist because there was no checklist for a dual engine failure. Also, due to their proximity to the ground, they did not have time to perform an emergency checklist. The airplane sustained substantial damage to the fuselage and both wings. A postaccident examination revealed that there were about 25 gallons of fuel in each nacelle, and both fuel selectors were in the “ON” position. The carburetor heat for each engine was in the “OFF” position. Examination of the engines and fuel system did not reveal any mechanical anomalies or failures that would have precluded normal operation. The recorded temperature and dew point near the accident site were conducive to “serious icing” at glide power settings. The pilot operating handbook for the airplane stated that carburetor heat should be used “as required” during approach and landing or if engine roughness occurs. Based on this information, it is likely that carburetor ice formed while the throttles were retarded during the descent which resulted in the initial engine roughness and subsequent loss of engine power due to carburetor ice.
Factual narrative
On September 20, 2024, at 12:04 central daylight time, a Piper PA-44-180 airplane, N2083D, was substantially damaged when it was involved in an accident near Shakopee, Minnesota. Both pilots were seriously injured. The airplane was operated as a Title 14 Code of Federal Regulations Part 91 instructional flight. One of the pilots, a flight instructor, was recently hired to instruct in the airplane and was receiving a check out flight from the assistant chief flight instructor. According to both pilots, they departed Flying Cloud Airport (FCM) for a local one-hour flight. The run-up, taxi, and takeoff were all normal. The airplane departed to the southwest and climbed to about 5,500 ft mean sea level. The flight instructor receiving the check-out performed several flight maneuvers in the airplane, then began a descent and proceeded back to FCM. About 3 miles from FCM, and about 800 ft to 1,000 ft above ground level, the right engine began to lose power followed by a loss of manifold pressure. Shortly thereafter, the left engine lost power accompanied by a decrease in manifold pressure. Then both engines lost power completely. The assistant chief flight instructor took control of the airplane while the other pilot pushed the mixture, propeller, and throttle controls to their full forward position, but the airplane continued to lose altitude. The pilots executed a forced landing to a field southwest of FCM. The assistant chief flight instructor stated that they did not execute an emergency checklist because there was no checklist for a dual engine failure, nor did they have time due to their proximity to the ground. The wings, fuselage, and empennage sustained substantial damage. A postaccident examination revealed that there were about 25 gallons of fuel in each nacelle, and both fuel selectors were in the “on” position. No water was detected in the fuel contained in either engine carburetor float bowl. Valvetrain continuity was established in both engines. Compression was achieved on all cylinders when the crankshaft was rotated in each engine. The magnetos on both engines produced spark when their respective impulse couplings were rotated. The carburetor heat for both engines were in the up or “off” position. The temperature, 24°C, and dew point, 12°C, recorded at the destination airport were conducive to “serious icing” at glide power setting. According to the pilot operating handbook for the airplane, carburetor heat should be used “as required” during approach and landing and if engine roughness occurs.
Aircraft
- Registration
- N2083D
- Reported as
- Piper PA-44-180
- Category
- Airplane
- Serial number
- 44-7995126
- Built
- 1978
- Airframe hours
- 12,593
- Engines
- Lycoming O-360-E1A6D, 180 horsepower, reciprocatingLycoming O-360-E1A6D, 180 horsepower, reciprocating
- Damage
- Substantial damage
- Flight
- Instructional · Part 91
- Operator
- Thunderbird Aircraft Co
- Registered owner
- Thunderbird Aircraft Co
- Airworthiness certificate
- Standard, Normal
- Last inspection
- 100 hour · September 18, 2024
- Departed
- FCM · Eden Prairie, MN
- Airport
- FCM · Flying Cloud AIrport
- Equipment
- Unknown
Matched to the registry by N-number and the event date; the registry’s history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model.
Flight crew · 2
As NTSB recorded them. NTSB leaves out names.
- Role
- Pilot
- Age
- 69
- Injuries
- Serious
- Certificates
- Flight instructor, Commercial
- Airplane ratings
- Single-engine land, Multi-engine land
- Instrument ratings
- Airplane
- Medical
- Class 2, With waivers/limitations
- Last flight review
- September 13, 2023
- Seat
- Left
- Flight hours
- 8,654 total · 1,021 in this make and model · 7,853 as pilot in command · 89 in the last 90 days · 34 in the last 30 days
- Role
- Co-pilot
- Age
- 47
- Injuries
- Serious
- Certificates
- Flight instructor, Commercial
- Airplane ratings
- Single-engine land, Multi-engine land
- Instrument ratings
- Airplane
- Medical
- Class 2, With waivers/limitations
- Seat
- Right
- Flight hours
- 0 total · 0 in this make and model
Weather
- Conditions
- Visual (VMC) · Day
- Wind
- 270° at 9 knots, gusting 17
- Visibility
- 10 statute miles
- Lowest ceiling
- None
- Temperature
- 75 °F, dew point 54 °F
- Altimeter
- 29.83 inHg
- Observed at
- KFCM, 3 nm away
- METAR
- KFCM 201653Z 27009G17KT 10SM CLR 24/12 A2983
Docket · 8
The files NTSB released with the investigation on June 4, 2025, on NTSB’s docket system: statements, records, photos and specialists’ reports. 5.1 MB in all.
FAA reports on this event · 1
The FAA’s own accident and incident reports, matched to the aircraft by N-number and date.