CHI84LA021

NTSB accident investigation · Piper J4E · Troy, MI · October 12, 1983

Accident · No injuriesLimited investigationFinal report
Date
October 12, 1983, 19:00 local (23:00 UTC)
Place
Troy, MI
Injuries
2 uninjured
Damage
Substantial damage
Phase of flight
Landing
Aircraft
N35695Piper J4E
Weather
Visual (VMC) · Dusk
Status
Completed
Report
Approved by Office Director
FAA report
19831012054349A
Case key
12479

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Sequence of events

NTSB’s coding before 2008: each occurrence and phase of flight, and the causes and factors under it. The codes are defined in NTSB’s coding manual.

Loss of control - on ground/waterLanding - roll
Directional control - not maintainedPilot in commandCause
Ground loop/swerve - uncontrolledPilot in commandCause
Control interference - conflictingCopilot/second pilotCause
Nose overLanding - roll
Terrain condition - softFactor

Analysis

The acft departed the side of the rwy during landing and nosed over. A private pilot was being accompanied by a commercial pilot whose CFI cirtificate had expired. During landing roll the private pilot began 's' turns for better forward visibility. The commercial pilot tried to correct the turns being unaware of the intention of them. The left main gear went off the side of the rwy into soft ground and the acft nosed over. The commercial pilot said he is taking responsibility as PIC when the accident occurred.

Aircraft

Registration
N35695
Reported as
Piper J4E
Category
Airplane
Serial number
4-1400
Airframe hours
1,279
Engine
Continental A75, 75 horsepower, reciprocating
Damage
Substantial damage
Flight
Instructional · Part 91
Registered owner
Ronald C. Wiand
Airworthiness certificate
Standard, Normal
Last inspection
Annual · August 1, 1983
Airport
7D2 · Troy-Oakland, runway 9, 3,855 × 50 ft, asphalt

Matched to the registry by N-number and the event date; the registry’s history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model.

Flight crew

As NTSB recorded them. NTSB leaves out names.

Role
Pilot
Age
25
Certificate
Commercial
Airplane ratings
Multi-engine land, Single-engine land
Instrument ratings
Airplane
Medical
Class 2, Valid Medical--no waivers/lim.
Seat
Right
Flight hours
1,757 total · 10 in this make and model · 1,612 as pilot in command · 78 in the last 90 days · 1 in the last 24 hours

Weather

Conditions
Visual (VMC) · Dusk
Wind
170° at 12 knots
Visibility
5 statute miles
Lowest ceiling
2,000 ft broken
Altimeter
29.00 inHg
Observed at
PTK, 12 nm away

FAA reports on this event · 1

The FAA’s own accident and incident reports, matched to the aircraft by N-number and date.