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NTSB accident investigation · Robert Thibodeau JR ACE · Troy, MI · July 17, 1985

Accident · No injuriesLimited investigationFinal report
Date
July 17, 1985, 10:15 local (14:15 UTC)
Place
Troy, MI
Injuries
1 uninjured
Damage
Substantial damage
Phase of flight
Takeoff
Aircraft
N3642Robert Thibodeau JR ACE
Weather
Visual (VMC) · Day
Status
Completed
Report
Approved by Office Director
FAA report
19850717071409A
Case key
13148

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Sequence of events

NTSB’s coding before 2008: each occurrence and phase of flight, and the causes and factors under it. The codes are defined in NTSB’s coding manual.

Loss of control - on ground/waterTakeoff - roll/run
Airspeed(vlof) - improperPilot in commandCause
QualificationPilot in commandCause
Aborted takeoff - uncontrolledPilot in commandFactor
Lack of familiarity with aircraftPilot in command
Lack of total experiencePilot in command
On ground/water collision with objectTakeoff - roll/run
Remedial action - not performedPilot in commandCause
Pilot in commandFactor
Psychological conditionPilot in commandFactor
Overconfidence in personal abilityPilot in commandFactor

Analysis

On July 17,1985 at 1015 EDT, a robert thibodeau jr ace N3642, registered to and flown by robert thibodeau, lost control and collided with the terrain on takeoff at Troy oakland airport, Troy,Michigan, while on a personal flight. Visual meteorological conditions prevailed at the time and no flight plan was filed. The aircraft was substantially damaged and the student pilot was uninjured. The flight originated at Troy, Michigan on July 17,1985 at 1013 EDT.

Aircraft

Registration
N3642
Reported as
Robert Thibodeau JR ACE
Category
Airplane, amateur-built
Serial number
6466
Airframe hours
1
Engine
Continental A-65-8, 65 horsepower, reciprocating
Damage
Substantial damage
Flight
Personal · Part 91
Registered owner
Robert Thibodeau
Airworthiness certificate
Special, Experimental (Special)
Last inspection
Annual · July 12, 1985 · 1 hours before
Departed
7D2 · Troy, MI
Airport
7D2 · Oakland-Troy, runway 9, 3,855 × 50 ft, asphalt

Matched to the registry by N-number and the event date; the registry’s history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model.

Flight crew

As NTSB recorded them. NTSB leaves out names.

Role
Pilot
Age
48
Certificate
Student
Medical
Class 3, Valid Medical--w/ waivers/lim
Seat
Center
Flight hours
80 total · 1 in this make and model · 10 as pilot in command · 1 in the last 24 hours

Weather

Conditions
Visual (VMC) · Day
Wind
50° at 8 knots
Visibility
15 statute miles
Lowest ceiling
None
Temperature
70 °F, dew point 59 °F
Altimeter
30.00 inHg
Observed at
DET, 25 nm away

FAA reports on this event · 1

The FAA’s own accident and incident reports, matched to the aircraft by N-number and date.