FTW90FA151

NTSB accident investigation · Cessna 172M · Elmendorf, TX · August 7, 1990

Accident · Minor injuriesField investigationFinal report
Date
August 7, 1990, 14:46 local (19:46 UTC)
Place
Elmendorf, TX
Injuries
1 minor, 3 uninjured
Phase of flight
Maneuvering
Aircraft
N1466VCessna 172MUSAFNorthrop T-38A
Weather
Visual (VMC) · Day
Status
Completed · report May 3, 1993
Report
Approved by Office Director
FAA report
19900807031562A
Case key
23030

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Probable cause

Inadequate visual lookout by both pilots in the T-38 and by the instructor pilot (CFI) in the Cessna 172.

Inadequate visual lookout by the instructor pilot (CFI) in the Cessna 172 and by both pilots in the T-38.

Sequence of events

NTSB’s coding before 2008: each occurrence and phase of flight, and the causes and factors under it. The codes are defined in NTSB’s coding manual.

Midair collisionManeuvering
Visual lookout - inadequatePilot in command(cfi)Cause
Visual lookout - inadequatePilot of other aircraftCause
Forced landingDescent - emergency
Midair collisionManeuvering
Visual lookout - inadequatePilot in command(cfi)Cause
Visual lookout - inadequateCopilot/second pilotCause
Visual lookout - inadequatePilot of other aircraftCause
Loss of control - in flightManeuvering
On ground/water encounter with terrain/waterDescent - uncontrolled

Analysis

A USAF T-38 & a Cessna 172 collided at 4200' MSL. Drg impact, the vertical stabilizer of the T-38 struck the rgt side of the 172'S eng. The eng sepd & the 172 plts lndd on a road. The T-38 dscndd out of ctl, but the T-38 plts ejected safely. Bfr impact, the student in the 172 (with a vision restricting device) & his instructor (CFI) were practicing air work mnvrs. The tandem seat T-38A (with an instructor plt in the back seat & a rated plt in the fnt seat) were being vectored for an ILS rwy 33 apch to kelly afb. The T-38'S spd was about 330 KTS; the spd limitation of 250 KTS had been waived for T-38 acft, due to the acft's lack of controllability at the lower spd. The 172 was equipped with a transponder, but it was not equipped with mode c. the T-38 was equipped with a mode c transponder. Both acft were in radio ctc with the san antonio south dep ctlr, but abt 3 min bfr the collision, radar svc with the 172 had been trmtd.

A USAF T-38 & a Cessna 172 collided at 4200' MSL. Drg impact, the vertical stabilizer of the T-38 struck the rgt side of the 172'S eng. The eng sepd & the 172 plts lndd on a road. The T-38 dscndd out of ctl, but the T-38 plts ejected safely. Bfr impact, the student in the 172 (with a vision restricting device) & his instructor (CFI) were practicing air work mnvrs. The tandem seat T-38A (with an instructor plt in the back seat & a rated plt in the fnt seat) were being vectored for an ILS rwy 33 apch to kelly afb. The T-38'S spd was about 330 KTS; the spd limitation of 250 KTS had been waived for T-38 acft, due to the acft's lack of controllability at the lower spd. The 172 was equipped with a transponder, but it was not equipped with mode c. the T-38 was equipped with a mode c transponder. Both acft were in radio ctc with the san antonio south dep ctlr, but abt 3 min bfr the collision, radar svc with the 172 had been trmtd.

Aircraft · 2

Registration
N1466V
Reported as
Cessna 172M
Category
Airplane
Serial number
17263603
Engine
Lycoming O-320-E2D, 150 horsepower, reciprocating
Damage
Substantial damage
Flight
Instructional · Part 91
Operator
Wright Flyers Inc.
Departed
SAT · San Antonio, TX
Destination
SAT
Airport
KSKF · Kelly Afb

Matched to the registry by N-number and the event date; the registry’s history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model.

Registration
USAF
Reported as
Northrop T-38A
Category
Airplane
Serial number
64-13273
Engine
GE J-85-OE-5H, 2,900 lbs thrust, turbo jet
Damage
Destroyed
Fire
On-Ground
Flight
Instructional · Armed forces
Operator
Department Of Defense, doing business as United States Air Force
Departed
RND · Randolph Afb, TX
Destination
DLF · Del Rio, TX
Flight plan
IFR
Airport
KSKF · Kelly Afb, runway 33, 11,550 × 300 ft

Flight crew · 2

As NTSB recorded them. NTSB leaves out names.

Role
Pilot, aircraft N1466V
Age
43
Certificates
Flight instructor, Airline transport
Airplane ratings
Multi-engine land, Single-engine land
Instrument ratings
Airplane
Medical
Class 1, Valid Medical--w/ waivers/lim
Toxicology
Performed
Flight hours
3,232 total · 750 in this make and model · 2,734 as pilot in command · 150 in the last 90 days · 50 in the last 30 days · 2 in the last 24 hours
Role
Pilot, aircraft 2
Age
25
Certificate
Military
Airplane ratings
Single-engine land, Multi-engine land
Instrument ratings
Airplane
Medical
Class 1, Valid Medical--no waivers/lim.
Flight hours
538 total · 431 in this make and model · 219 as pilot in command · 105 in the last 90 days · 36 in the last 30 days · 2 in the last 24 hours

Weather

Conditions
Visual (VMC) · Day
Wind
40° at 10 knots
Visibility
20 statute miles
Lowest ceiling
None
Temperature
-0 °F, dew point -0 °F
Observed at
SAT, 20 nm away

FAA reports on this event · 1

The FAA’s own accident and incident reports, matched to the aircraft by N-number and date.