- Date
- April 8, 2017, 15:00 local (19:00 UTC)
- Place
- New Carlisle, OH
- Injuries
- 2 uninjured
- Phase of flight
- Landing
- Defining events
- Landing-landing roll: Ground collisionLanding: Ground collision
- Weather
- Visual (VMC) · Day
- Status
- Completed · report July 5, 2017
- Report
- Approved by Office Director
- NTSB office
- General Aviation Accidents
- Parties
- FAA
- FAA reports
- 20170408024472A20170408024489A
- Case key
- 94984
From the NTSB’s public API. By law, NTSB reports can’t be used as evidence in lawsuits over the accident.
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Probable cause
The other pilot’s decision to land on an occupied runway and his failure to see and avoid the airplane.
The pilot’s decision to land on an occupied runway and his failure to see and avoid the other airplane.
Findings · 5
NTSB’s coded findings. Those marked are part of the probable cause; the rest are factors or other findings. Under each, the cases with the same finding.
N88470 · Piper J3C
N8350U · Cessna 172
Sequence of events
The events NTSB coded, in order, by phase of flight. The defining event is the one that best describes the accident. Under each, the cases with the same event anywhere in their sequence.
N88470 · Piper J3C
N8350U · Cessna 172
Analysis
The pilot of the tailwheel-equipped Piper reported that his airplane was not equipped with a radio and that the forward visibility was not good when taxiing while piloting the airplane from the rear seat. He entered a left downwind for the runway, saw no other aircraft while on final, and continued to land. He added that, during the landing roll, as he turned to clear the runway, his airplane collided with a Cessna airplane that was taxiing on the same runway after having landed on it from the opposite direction. He reported that he did not see the Cessna before the collision. The Piper sustained substantial damage to the right wing's front spar. The pilot of the Cessna reported that, while flying local in the traffic pattern, he announced his position and intent to land on the airport's common traffic advisory frequency during all landings while simultaneously visually checking right and left for traffic. He added that, as he was taxiing on the runway toward the exit after landing, he saw the Piper land in the opposite direction on the same runway. Subsequently, the Piper turned diagonally across the runway toward the Cessna, and the two airplanes collided. The Cessna sustained substantial damage to its right wing. Both pilots reported that there were no preaccident mechanical failures or malfunctions with either airplane that would have precluded normal operation.
The pilot of the tailwheel-equipped Piper reported that his airplane was not equipped with a radio and that the forward visibility was not good when taxiing while piloting the airplane from the rear seat. He entered a left downwind for the runway, saw no other aircraft while on final, and continued to land. He added that, during the landing roll, as he turned to clear the runway, his airplane collided with a Cessna airplane that was taxiing on the same runway after having landed on it from the opposite direction. He reported that he did not see the Cessna before the collision. The Piper sustained substantial damage to the right wing's front spar. The pilot of the Cessna reported that, while flying local in the traffic pattern, he announced his position and intent to land on the airport's common traffic advisory frequency during all landings while simultaneously visually checking right and left for traffic. He added that, as he was taxiing on the runway toward the exit after landing, he saw the Piper land in the opposite direction on the same runway. Subsequently, the Piper turned diagonally across the runway toward the Cessna, and the two airplanes collided. The Cessna sustained substantial damage to its right wing. Both pilots reported that there were no preaccident mechanical failures or malfunctions with either airplane that would have precluded normal operation.
Factual narrative
The pilot of the tailwheel-equipped Piper, reported that his airplane was not equipped with a radio, and that the forward visibility is not good when taxiing, while piloting the airplane from the rear seat. He entered a left downwind for the runway, saw no other aircraft while on final, and continued to land. He added that during the landing roll, as he turned to clear the runway, his airplane collided with a Cessna airplane that was taxiing on the runway after having landed on the same runway, from the opposite direction. He reported that he did not see the Cessna prior to the collision. The Piper sustained substantial damage to the right wing's front spar. The pilot of the Cessna reported that while flying local in the traffic pattern he announced his position and intent to land on the airport's Common traffic advisory frequency (CTAF) during all landings, while at the same time visually checking right and left for traffic. He added that as he was taxiing on the runway toward the exit after landing, he saw the Piper land in the opposite direction on the same runway. Subsequently, the Piper turned diagonally across the runway toward the Cessna, and the two airplanes collided. The Cessna sustained substantial damage to its right wing. Both pilots reported that there were no pre-accident mechanical failures or malfunctions with either airplane that would have precluded normal operation.
The pilot of the tailwheel-equipped Piper, reported that his airplane was not equipped with a radio, and that the forward visibility is not good when taxiing, while piloting the airplane from the rear seat. He entered a left downwind for the runway, saw no other aircraft while on final, and continued to land. He added that during the landing roll, as he turned to clear the runway, his airplane collided with a Cessna airplane that was taxiing on the runway after having landed on the same runway, from the opposite direction. He reported that he did not see the Cessna prior to the collision. The Piper sustained substantial damage to the right wing's front spar. The pilot of the Cessna reported that while flying local in the traffic pattern he announced his position and intent to land on the airport's Common traffic advisory frequency (CTAF) during all landings, while at the same time visually checking right and left for traffic. He added that as he was taxiing on the runway toward the exit after landing, he saw the Piper land in the opposite direction on the same runway. Subsequently, the Piper turned diagonally across the runway toward the Cessna, and the two airplanes collided. The Cessna sustained substantial damage to its right wing. Both pilots reported that there were no pre-accident mechanical failures or malfunctions with either airplane that would have precluded normal operation.
Aircraft · 2
- Registration
- N88470
- Reported as
- Piper J3C (65)
- Category
- Airplane
- Serial number
- 16094
- Built
- 1946
- Airframe hours
- 4,461.7
- Engine
- Cont Motor A65-8, 65 horsepower, reciprocating
- Damage
- Substantial damage
- Flight
- Personal · Part 91
- Airworthiness certificate
- Standard, Normal
- Last inspection
- Annual · April 9, 2016
- Departed
- 3OH0 · New Carlisle, OH
- Destination
- 3OH0 · New Carlisle, OH
- Airport
- 3OH0 · Andy Barnhart Memorial, runway 10, 2,000 × 150 ft, grass/turf
- Equipment
- None
Matched to the registry by N-number and the event date; the registry’s history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model.
- Registration
- N8350U
- Reported as
- Cessna 172 (F)
- Category
- Airplane
- Serial number
- 17252250
- Built
- 1965
- Airframe hours
- 3,491.6
- Engine
- Cont Motor O-300-D, 145 horsepower, reciprocating
- Damage
- Substantial damage
- Flight
- Personal · Part 91
- Airworthiness certificate
- Standard, Utility; Standard, Normal
- Last inspection
- Annual · June 1, 2016
- Departed
- 3OH0 · New Carlisle, OH
- Destination
- 3OH0 · New Carlisle, OH
- Airport
- 3OH0 · Andy Barnhart Memorial, runway 28, 2,000 × 150 ft, grass/turf
- Equipment
- Stall warning system
Matched to the registry by N-number and the event date; the registry’s history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model.
Flight crew · 2
As NTSB recorded them. NTSB leaves out names.
- Role
- Pilot, aircraft N88470
- Age
- 73
- Injuries
- None
- Certificates
- Flight instructor, Airline transport
- Airplane ratings
- Multi-engine land, Single-engine land, Single-engine sea
- Instrument ratings
- Airplane
- Medical
- Sport pilot, Unknown
- Last flight review
- November 14, 2015
- Seat
- Rear
- Restraint
- Lap only
- Flight hours
- 9,000 total · 60 in this make and model · 8,000 as pilot in command
- Role
- Pilot, aircraft N8350U
- Age
- 77
- Injuries
- None
- Certificate
- Private
- Airplane ratings
- Single-engine land
- Medical
- Class 3, With waivers/limitations
- Last flight review
- October 11, 2016
- Seat
- Left
- Restraint
- Lap only
- Flight hours
- 2,400 total · 2,280 in this make and model · 2,400 as pilot in command · 9.6 in the last 90 days · 5.1 in the last 30 days · 0.4 in the last 24 hours
Weather
- Conditions
- Visual (VMC) · Day
- Wind
- 130° at 6 knots
- Visibility
- 10 statute miles
- Lowest ceiling
- None
- Temperature
- 59 °F, dew point 21 °F
- Altimeter
- 30.07 inHg
- Observed at
- KFFO, 6 nm away
Docket · 4
The files NTSB released with the investigation on June 13, 2017, on NTSB’s docket system: statements, records, photos and specialists’ reports. 2.7 MB in all.
FAA reports on this event · 2
The FAA’s own accident and incident reports, matched to the aircraft by N-number and date.