LAX05LA037

NTSB accident investigation · Great Lakes 2T-1A · San Diego, CA · November 13, 2004

Accident · No injuriesLimited investigationFinal report
Date
November 13, 2004, 14:30 local (22:30 UTC)
Place
San Diego, CA
Injuries
2 uninjured
Damage
Substantial damage
Phase of flight
Landing
Aircraft
N502GLGreat Lakes 2T-1A
Weather
Visual (VMC) · Day
Status
Completed · report December 28, 2006
Report
Approved by Office Director
Parties
Federal Aviation Administration
FAA report
20041113030739A
Case key
60585

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Probable cause

the flight instructor's failure to maintain directional control during the landing rollout.

Sequence of events

NTSB’s coding before 2008: each occurrence and phase of flight, and the causes and factors under it. The codes are defined in NTSB’s coding manual.

Loss of control - on ground/waterLanding - roll
Directional control - not maintainedPilot in command(cfi)Cause
Ground loop/swerve - encounteredPilot in command(cfi)
On ground/water encounter with terrain/waterLanding - roll
Terrain condition - runway

Analysis

On the landing rollout the airplane ground looped. The certified flight instructor (CFI) reported that he was demonstrating a forward slip to lose altitude for landing. As the airplane was rolling out, he attempted to slow down by adding light pressure on both heel brakes. The airplane began a right turn, and he counteracted with additional pressure on the left brake, but there was no response. The airplane swerved off the runway and ground looped. A Federal Aviation Administration inspector examined the airplane's brake system. When he depressed the brakes he found them a little spongy but completely operational.

Factual narrative

On November 13, 2004, at 1430 Pacific standard time, a Great Lakes 2T-1A, N502GL, ground looped on the landing rollout on runway 28L at Montgomery Field Airport (MYF), San Diego, California. Associated Aircraft, Inc., operated the airplane as an instructional flight under the provisions of 14 CFR Part 91. The airplane sustained substantial damage. The certified flight instructor (CFI) and student pilot were not injured. Visual meteorological conditions prevailed for the local area instructional flight that departed MYF at 0900. A stop was made at Borrego Valley Airport (L08), Borrego Springs, California. The flight departed L08 for Montgomery at 1335. The flight was destined for Montgomery Field.

According to the CFI, the purpose of the flight was to provide a conventional gear airplane checkout for the private pilot. They encountered no discrepancies with the flight until the landing rollout at MYF. The CFI reported that on approach he took the flight controls to demonstrate a forward slip to lose altitude. He indicated that this was a normal approach as the airplane is not equipped with flaps. He made a normal three-point landing, and as the airplane was rolling out straight with the control stick full back, he attempted to slow down with light pressure on both heel brakes. The airplane started a right turn, and he counteracted with the left brake; however, there was no response. The airplane swerved off the runway and ground looped to the right. The lower left wing contacted the ground, and the airplane came to rest on its nose.

A Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) inspector examined the airplane's brake system and found that the brakes were a little "spongy" when he depressed them, but functioned normally. There were no further mechanical discrepancies noted.

Aircraft

Registration
N502GL
Reported as
Great Lakes 2T-1A
Category
Airplane
Serial number
0502
Airframe hours
1,608.41
Engine
Lycoming O-320-E2A, 140 horsepower, reciprocating
Damage
Substantial damage
Flight
Instructional · Part 91
Registered owner
Associated Aircraft, Inc.
Airworthiness certificate
Standard, Aerobatic
Last inspection
Annual · April 1, 2004 · 40.41 hours before
Departed
L08 · Borrego Springs, CA
Destination
MYF · San Diego, CA
Airport
MYF · Montgomery Field, runway 28L, 3,401 × 60 ft, asphalt

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Flight crew · 2

As NTSB recorded them. NTSB leaves out names.

Role
Flight instructor
Age
71
Injuries
None
Certificates
Flight instructor, Commercial
Airplane ratings
Single-engine sea, Multi-engine land, Single-engine land
Instrument ratings
Airplane
Medical
Class 3
Last flight review
January 1, 2004
Seat
Front
Flight hours
5,522 total · 320 in this make and model · 4,779 as pilot in command · 16 in the last 90 days · 7 in the last 30 days · 2 in the last 24 hours
Role
Student pilot
Age
70
Injuries
None
Certificate
Commercial
Airplane ratings
Single-engine land
Medical
Class 3
Last flight review
August 1, 2004
Seat
Rear
Flight hours
811 total · 7 in this make and model · 535 as pilot in command · 13 in the last 90 days · 7 in the last 30 days · 2 in the last 24 hours

Weather

Conditions
Visual (VMC) · Day
Wind
Calm
Visibility
10 statute miles
Lowest ceiling
None
Temperature
66 °F, dew point 48 °F
Altimeter
29.90 inHg
Observed at
MYF

FAA reports on this event · 1

The FAA’s own accident and incident reports, matched to the aircraft by N-number and date.

Other investigations on N502GL · 3

Matched to the same aircraft by N-number and date.