- Date
- November 13, 2004, 14:30 local (22:30 UTC)
- Place
- San Diego, CA
- Injuries
- 2 uninjured
- Damage
- Substantial damage
- Phase of flight
- Landing
- Aircraft
- N502GLGreat Lakes 2T-1A
- Weather
- Visual (VMC) · Day
- Status
- Completed · report December 28, 2006
- Report
- Approved by Office Director
- Parties
- Federal Aviation Administration
- FAA report
- 20041113030739A
- Case key
- 60585
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Probable cause
the flight instructor's failure to maintain directional control during the landing rollout.
Sequence of events
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Analysis
On the landing rollout the airplane ground looped. The certified flight instructor (CFI) reported that he was demonstrating a forward slip to lose altitude for landing. As the airplane was rolling out, he attempted to slow down by adding light pressure on both heel brakes. The airplane began a right turn, and he counteracted with additional pressure on the left brake, but there was no response. The airplane swerved off the runway and ground looped. A Federal Aviation Administration inspector examined the airplane's brake system. When he depressed the brakes he found them a little spongy but completely operational.
Factual narrative
On November 13, 2004, at 1430 Pacific standard time, a Great Lakes 2T-1A, N502GL, ground looped on the landing rollout on runway 28L at Montgomery Field Airport (MYF), San Diego, California. Associated Aircraft, Inc., operated the airplane as an instructional flight under the provisions of 14 CFR Part 91. The airplane sustained substantial damage. The certified flight instructor (CFI) and student pilot were not injured. Visual meteorological conditions prevailed for the local area instructional flight that departed MYF at 0900. A stop was made at Borrego Valley Airport (L08), Borrego Springs, California. The flight departed L08 for Montgomery at 1335. The flight was destined for Montgomery Field.
According to the CFI, the purpose of the flight was to provide a conventional gear airplane checkout for the private pilot. They encountered no discrepancies with the flight until the landing rollout at MYF. The CFI reported that on approach he took the flight controls to demonstrate a forward slip to lose altitude. He indicated that this was a normal approach as the airplane is not equipped with flaps. He made a normal three-point landing, and as the airplane was rolling out straight with the control stick full back, he attempted to slow down with light pressure on both heel brakes. The airplane started a right turn, and he counteracted with the left brake; however, there was no response. The airplane swerved off the runway and ground looped to the right. The lower left wing contacted the ground, and the airplane came to rest on its nose.
A Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) inspector examined the airplane's brake system and found that the brakes were a little "spongy" when he depressed them, but functioned normally. There were no further mechanical discrepancies noted.
Aircraft
- Registration
- N502GL
- Reported as
- Great Lakes 2T-1A
- Category
- Airplane
- Serial number
- 0502
- Airframe hours
- 1,608.41
- Engine
- Lycoming O-320-E2A, 140 horsepower, reciprocating
- Damage
- Substantial damage
- Flight
- Instructional · Part 91
- Registered owner
- Associated Aircraft, Inc.
- Airworthiness certificate
- Standard, Aerobatic
- Last inspection
- Annual · April 1, 2004 · 40.41 hours before
- Departed
- L08 · Borrego Springs, CA
- Destination
- MYF · San Diego, CA
- Airport
- MYF · Montgomery Field, runway 28L, 3,401 × 60 ft, asphalt
Matched to the registry by N-number and the event date; the registry’s history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model.
Flight crew · 2
As NTSB recorded them. NTSB leaves out names.
- Role
- Flight instructor
- Age
- 71
- Injuries
- None
- Certificates
- Flight instructor, Commercial
- Airplane ratings
- Single-engine sea, Multi-engine land, Single-engine land
- Instrument ratings
- Airplane
- Medical
- Class 3
- Last flight review
- January 1, 2004
- Seat
- Front
- Flight hours
- 5,522 total · 320 in this make and model · 4,779 as pilot in command · 16 in the last 90 days · 7 in the last 30 days · 2 in the last 24 hours
- Role
- Student pilot
- Age
- 70
- Injuries
- None
- Certificate
- Commercial
- Airplane ratings
- Single-engine land
- Medical
- Class 3
- Last flight review
- August 1, 2004
- Seat
- Rear
- Flight hours
- 811 total · 7 in this make and model · 535 as pilot in command · 13 in the last 90 days · 7 in the last 30 days · 2 in the last 24 hours
Weather
- Conditions
- Visual (VMC) · Day
- Wind
- Calm
- Visibility
- 10 statute miles
- Lowest ceiling
- None
- Temperature
- 66 °F, dew point 48 °F
- Altimeter
- 29.90 inHg
- Observed at
- MYF
FAA reports on this event · 1
The FAA’s own accident and incident reports, matched to the aircraft by N-number and date.
Other investigations on N502GL · 3
Matched to the same aircraft by N-number and date.