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NTSB accident investigation · Piper PA-38-112 · Byron, CA · March 17, 1985

Accident · No injuriesLimited investigationFinal report
Date
March 17, 1985, 10:00 local (18:00 UTC)
Place
Byron, CA
Injuries
2 uninjured
Damage
Substantial damage
Phase of flight
Initial climb
Aircraft
N2369PPiper PA-38-112
Weather
Visual (VMC) · Day
Status
Completed
Report
Approved by Office Director
Case key
24679

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Sequence of events

NTSB’s coding before 2008: each occurrence and phase of flight, and the causes and factors under it. The codes are defined in NTSB’s coding manual.

Loss of control - in flightTakeoff - initial climb
In-flight planning/decision - poorDual studentCause
Go-around - attemptedPilot in command(cfi)Factor
Airspeed - not maintainedPilot in command(cfi)Cause
Stall - uncontrolledPilot in command(cfi)Factor
In flight collision with terrain/waterDescent - uncontrolled

Analysis

The CFI & student plt were practicing takeoffs & landings. During the students second apch, the acft was too high & fast. The acft touched down midfield, left of the rwy, & in the grass. The CFI applied pwr to takeoff, however, the acft stalled and the left wing tip hit the ground & a fence post. The student plt had a total of 40 hrs dual & had not soloed.

Aircraft

Registration
N2369P
Reported as
Piper PA-38-112
Category
Airplane
Serial number
38-79A-0967
Airframe hours
2,469
Engine
Lycoming O-235, 112 horsepower, reciprocating
Damage
Substantial damage
Flight
Instructional · Part 91
Registered owner
Navajo Aviation
Airworthiness certificate
Standard, Normal
Last inspection
Annual · January 10, 1985 · 69 hours before
Departed
4Q5
Airport
4Q5 · Byron Airpark, runway 22, 2,220 × 30 ft, asphalt

Flight crew

As NTSB recorded them. NTSB leaves out names.

Role
Pilot
Age
26
Certificates
Flight instructor, Commercial
Airplane ratings
Single-engine land
Instrument ratings
Airplane
Medical
Class 1, Valid Medical--no waivers/lim.
Seat
Right
Flight hours
625 total · 200 in this make and model · 575 as pilot in command · 110 in the last 90 days · 40 in the last 30 days · 3 in the last 24 hours

Weather

Conditions
Visual (VMC) · Day
Wind
220° at 5 knots
Visibility
20 statute miles
Lowest ceiling
20,000 ft broken
Temperature
68 °F
Altimeter
30.00 inHg