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NTSB accident investigation · LTV Aerospace Industries A7E · Warner Springs, CA · April 20, 1986

Accident · No injuriesMajor investigationFinal report
Date
April 20, 1986, 14:43 local (22:43 UTC)
Place
Warner Springs, CA
Injuries
2 uninjured
Phase of flight
Maneuvering
Aircraft
USNLTV Aerospace Industries A7EN50EHRolladen-Schneider LS-4
Weather
Visual (VMC) · Day
Status
Completed
Report
Approved by Office Director
FAA report
19860420061712A
Case key
25280

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Sequence of events

NTSB’s coding before 2008: each occurrence and phase of flight, and the causes and factors under it. The codes are defined in NTSB’s coding manual.

Midair collisionManeuvering
Terrain condition - mountainous/hillyFactor
Preflight planning/preparation - improperPilot of other aircraftCause
In-flight planning/decision - improperPilot of other aircraftCause
Checklist - poorPilot of other aircraftCause
Midair collisionManeuvering
Terrain condition - mountainous/hillyFactor
Preflight planning/preparation - improperPilot in commandCause
In-flight planning/decision - improperPilot in commandCause
Checklist - poorPilot in commandCause

Analysis

A rolladen-schneider LS-4 glider and an ltv A7E jet collided over hot Springs mtn, near Warner Springs, CA. The A7E was attempting a rapid pull up and the glider was attempting a nose down, 30 deg right turn when they collided. Both aircraft were operating under visual flt rules and landed without further incident. Neither pilot was injured. The glider left wing outbd 3 ft section was severed. The A7E nose cowling was substantially damaged and the engine ingested extensive fiberglass material. The collision occurred as the A7E was executing a southbound turn on vr 1257 and was within the route width (4NM); the glider was attempting to gain lift on the west side of hot Springs mtn and was within vr 1257 route structure. The A7E plt had informed the necessary flt serv stations that the route was active; the glider plt had not contacted the flt serv stations to determine if the route was active.

A rolladen-schneider LS-4 glider and an ltv A7E jet collided over hot Springs mtn, near Warner Springs, CA. The A7E was attempting a rapid pull up and the glider was attempting a nose down, 30 deg right turn when they collided. Both aircraft were operating under visual flt rules and landed without further incident. Neither pilot was injured. The glider left wing outbd 3 ft section was severed. The A7E nose cowling was substantially damaged and the engine ingested extensive fiberglass material. The collision occurred as the A7E was executing a southbound turn on vr 1257 and was within the route width (4 NM); the glider was attempting to gain lift on the west side of hot Springs mtn and was within vr 1257 route structure. The A7E plt had informed the necessary flt serv stations that the route was active; the glider plt had not contacted the flt serv stations to determine if the route was active.

Aircraft · 2

Registration
USN
Reported as
LTV Aerospace Industries A7E
Category
Airplane
Serial number
160858
Airframe hours
3,164
Engine
Allison TF-41A-402D, 15,000 lbs thrust, turbo fan
Damage
Substantial damage
Flight
Part 91
Registered owner
United States Navy
Last inspection
Unknown · December 8, 1985 · 96 hours before
Departed
NKX · San Diego, CA
Destination
Lemore, CA
Flight plan
VFR/IFR
Airport
L20 · Warner Springs, runway 24, 12,000 × 200 ft, concrete
Registration
N50EH
Reported as
Rolladen-Schneider LS-4
Category
Glider
Serial number
4134
Airframe hours
781
Engine
unknown
Damage
Substantial damage
Flight
Personal · Part 91
Registered owner
James K. Garner & Stanley Foat
Airworthiness certificate
Standard, Normal
Last inspection
Annual · February 22, 1986 · 17 hours before
Departed
HMT · Hemet, CA
Airport
L20 · Warner Springs, runway 25, 5,000 × 90 ft, asphalt

Flight crew · 2

As NTSB recorded them. NTSB leaves out names.

Role
Pilot, aircraft 1
Age
26
Certificate
Commercial
Airplane ratings
Single-engine land, Multi-engine land
Instrument ratings
Airplane
Medical
Unknown
Seat
Front
Toxicology
Performed
Flight hours
1,171 total · 859 in this make and model · 1,115 as pilot in command · 107 in the last 90 days · 40 in the last 30 days · 6 in the last 24 hours
Role
Pilot, aircraft N50EH
Age
35
Certificate
Private
Airplane ratings
Single-engine land
Seat
Front
Flight hours
755 total · 637 in this make and model · 707 as pilot in command · 16 in the last 90 days · 7 in the last 30 days · 2 in the last 24 hours

Weather

Conditions
Visual (VMC) · Day
Wind
310° at 9 knots
Visibility
25 statute miles
Lowest ceiling
None
Temperature
82 °F
Altimeter
30.00 inHg
Observed at
NKX, 42 nm away

FAA reports on this event · 1

The FAA’s own accident and incident reports, matched to the aircraft by N-number and date.