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NTSB accident investigation · Piper PA-44-180T · Missing Acft (Pacific Ocean) · February 25, 1987

Accident · FatalMissing aircraftFinal report
Date
February 24, 1987, 18:16 local (Feb 25, 1987, 02:16 UTC)
Place
Missing Acft (Pacific Ocean)
Injuries
2 fatal
Damage
Destroyed
Phase of flight
Unknown
Aircraft
N8307HPiper PA-44-180T
Weather
Day
Status
Completed · report March 31, 1989
Report
Approved by Office Director
Case key
25430

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Sequence of events

NTSB’s coding before 2008: each occurrence and phase of flight, and the causes and factors under it. The codes are defined in NTSB’s coding manual.

Missing aircraftUnknown
Reason for occurrence undeterminedCause

Analysis

The instructor plt (CFI) & the single-eng, pvt plt (owner) were on a flt to conduct multi-eng training for the new owner. Drg the flt, the crew contacted los angeles TRACON & requested a VOR apch to the santa monica arpt & said they would not be able to maint VFR. TRACON assigned an alt of 3000' & started providing vectors to the flt. Shortly thereafter, radio & radar contact with the Acft were lost as it was flying over ocean waters about 12 mi west of los angeles. Neither the Acft nor the occupants were fnd. The Acft was presumed to have crashed in the ocean & the crew were presumed to have been fatally injured. Rainshowers & a thunderstorm were rprtd to be in the area.

Aircraft

Registration
N8307H
Reported as
Piper PA-44-180T
Category
Airplane
Serial number
448107032
Engine
Lycoming TO-360-E1A6D, 180 horsepower, reciprocating
Damage
Destroyed
Fire
Unknown
Flight
Instructional · Part 91
Registered owner
Edward H. Grinstead
Airworthiness certificate
Standard, Normal
Departed
VNY · Van Nuys, CA

Matched to the registry by N-number and the event date; the registry’s history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model.

Flight crew

As NTSB recorded them. NTSB leaves out names.

Role
Pilot
Age
23
Certificates
Commercial, Flight instructor
Airplane ratings
Single-engine land, Multi-engine land
Instrument ratings
Airplane
Medical
Class 1, Valid Medical--w/ waivers/lim
Seat
Right
Flight hours
792 total

Weather

Conditions
Day
Temperature
46 °F, dew point 39 °F
Altimeter
29.00 inHg
Observed at
LAX, 12 nm away