LAX87LA143

NTSB accident investigation · Stinson 108-1 · Saugus, CA · March 13, 1987

Accident · No injuriesLimited investigationFinal report
Date
March 12, 1987, 19:25 local (Mar 13, 1987, 03:25 UTC)
Place
Saugus, CA
Injuries
2 uninjured
Damage
Substantial damage
Phase of flight
Approach
Aircraft
N8185KStinson 108-1
Weather
Visual (VMC) · Dusk
Status
Completed · report March 21, 1988
Report
Approved by Office Director
FAA report
19870312006009A
Case key
25539

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Sequence of events

NTSB’s coding before 2008: each occurrence and phase of flight, and the causes and factors under it. The codes are defined in NTSB’s coding manual.

In flight encounter with weatherApproach - faf/outer marker to threshold (ifr)
Weather condition - cloudsFactor
Vfr flight into imc - intentionalPilot in commandCause
Proper glidepath - not maintainedPilot in commandFactor
Not performedPilot in commandFactor
Remedial action - delayedPilot in commandFactor
Forced landingDescent - emergency
Precautionary landing - performedPilot in commandFactor
Fuel supply - inadequatePilot in commandCause
On ground/water collision with objectLanding - roll
Object - fence

Analysis

Upon contacting ATC, the plt requested an ILS apch and that he was low on fuel. The controller cleared the plt to the ILS. Just inside the outer marker the controller advised the plt that he was dangerously low and to climb immediately. The plt was observed to make a northerly turn. The controller asked the plt his intentions and the plt replied he wanted an ILS to the arpt. The controller gave the plt vectors back to the ILS when the plt stated that he was descending through a hole in VMC. Radar contact was lost and the controller had to use another acft to relay messages to the plt. The plt stated that he was low on fuel. The controller advised the plt to squawk 7700 and that if he could not make it to another arpt he should find a flat spot and land. The plt found a dry wash and landed. While taxiing to higher ground, the right wing struck a fence.

Aircraft

Registration
N8185K
Reported as
Stinson 108-1
Category
Airplane
Serial number
108-1185
Airframe hours
3,795
Engine
Franklin 6A4-165, 165 horsepower, reciprocating
Damage
Substantial damage
Flight
Personal · Part 91
Registered owner
Foley, John L.
Airworthiness certificate
Standard, Normal
Last inspection
Annual · May 13, 1986
Departed
CNO · Chino, CA
Destination
VNY · Van Nuys, CA

Matched to the registry by N-number and the event date; the registry’s history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model.

Flight crew

As NTSB recorded them. NTSB leaves out names.

Role
Pilot
Age
60
Certificates
Private, Commercial
Airplane ratings
Multi-engine land, Single-engine land
Instrument ratings
Airplane
Medical
Class 2, Valid Medical--w/ waivers/lim
Seat
Left
Flight hours
1,742 total · 1,206 in this make and model · 1,742 as pilot in command · 40 in the last 90 days · 17 in the last 30 days · 3 in the last 24 hours

Weather

Conditions
Visual (VMC) · Dusk
Wind
Calm
Visibility
7 statute miles
Lowest ceiling
1,400 ft overcast
Temperature
57 °F, dew point 52 °F
Altimeter
30.00 inHg
Observed at
VNY, 10 nm away

FAA reports on this event · 1

The FAA’s own accident and incident reports, matched to the aircraft by N-number and date.