LAX88FA061

NTSB accident investigation · Piper PA-11 · San Marcos, CA · November 28, 1987

Accident · FatalField investigationFinal report
Date
November 28, 1987, 15:15 local (23:15 UTC)
Place
San Marcos, CA
Injuries
2 fatal
Damage
Destroyed
Phase of flight
Maneuvering
Aircraft
N4767HPiper PA-11
Weather
Visual (VMC) · Day
Status
Completed · report June 7, 1989
Report
Approved by Office Director
FAA report
19871128068519A
Case key
25796

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Sequence of events

NTSB’s coding before 2008: each occurrence and phase of flight, and the causes and factors under it. The codes are defined in NTSB’s coding manual.

In flight collision with terrain/waterManeuvering
Low pass - performedFactor
Proper altitude - not maintainedPilot in commandCause
Supervision - inadequateCheck pilotCause

Analysis

The 2 plts took off on an instructional flt which was to be a biennial flt review for the acft owner. During the flt, the plts flew to a dirt strip on a saddleback between 2 mtn peaks near San Marcos. Subsequently, the acft struck a boulder & crashed near the northeast end of the strip. There were no known witnesses to the acdnt. There was evidence the acft had struck the boulder after the plts made a low pass over the strip on a northeasterly hdg. The acft came to rest about 30 ft northeast of the boulder with extensive damage. The prop blades contained chordwise scoring & massive smearing or leading edge damage. No preimpact mechanical problem was evident. An exam of the rwy revealed no indcn of the acft touching down before impact. Evidence was inconclusive as to which plt was manipulating the controls when the acdnt occurred. On this flt, the owner was considered to be the plt-in-command.

Aircraft

Registration
N4767H
Reported as
Piper PA-11
Category
Airplane
Serial number
11-689
Airframe hours
2,150
Engine
Continental C-90, 90 horsepower, reciprocating
Damage
Destroyed
Flight
Instructional · Part 91
Registered owner
Ernest L. Bradford
Airworthiness certificate
Standard, Normal
Last inspection
Annual · March 19, 1987 · 140 hours before
Departed
L32 · Oceanside, CA
Destination
L32
Airport
Mountain Strip, runway 4, 1,500 × 30 ft, dirt

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Flight crew

As NTSB recorded them. NTSB leaves out names.

Role
Pilot
Age
43
Certificate
Private
Airplane ratings
Single-engine land
Medical
Class 3, Valid Medical--w/ waivers/lim
Seat
Front
Toxicology
Performed
Flight hours
1,890 total · 1,422 in this make and model · 1,814 as pilot in command · 153 in the last 90 days · 22 in the last 30 days · 1 in the last 24 hours

Weather

Conditions
Visual (VMC) · Day
Wind
210° at 8 knots
Visibility
30 statute miles
Lowest ceiling
None
Altimeter
29.00 inHg
Observed at
CRQ, 7 nm away

FAA reports on this event · 1

The FAA’s own accident and incident reports, matched to the aircraft by N-number and date.